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Fafnir Fauna

Downy Cat

Join date: 23 Jun 2004

Posts: 34

07-13-2004 20:44

Will ATI cards with AGP accelleration on ever be fixed? Is it possible? Or is it something the developers of the hardware and driver need to fix? Running SL on my Radeon 9600 XT should not be giving me 10FPS, and I'm assuming it's because the program is rendering in software mode.

[Edit]
10FPS with all graphics options set down to their lowest, I might add.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

07-13-2004 23:49

My card isn't so bad and it doesn't perform much better than that in bad areas sometimes. Not sure exactly what the "acceleration" does, but if it's anything like making the card communicate at the speed of a non-AGP card (PCI

), then.....OMG make'm fix it!

_____________________

BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

07-14-2004 09:58

They disabled AGP acceleration on all Macs, but mine was working just fine.

We should at least have the option of using AGP, even if it is at our own risk.

Wadester Madison

Registered User

Join date: 15 Jun 2004

Posts: 25

07-14-2004 22:09

I had many problems with my Radeon 9600XT at first. FPS was not really an issue, unless I pumped up the graphic settings. Apparently the best video card can't help you in complex areas, but I get decent FPS (~10) with above average graphic settings in moderately complex areas.

I did have a major lock-up problem after 1.4. I found a thread where someone mentioned using the Omega video drivers instead of the ATI Catalyst drivers. At first, I was reluctant to use non-standard drives, but I had no choice -- and I'm glad I did! Not only did the complete system crashes vanish, but my overall performance increased by about 20% (based upon Futuremark's 3Dmark03 benchmarks)! Try it!

http://www.omegadrivers.net/

BTW, my AGP is still disabled with the Omega drivers, but not really sure if that would make an improvement or not.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

07-14-2004 22:15

They were probably getting alot of issues related to people having it on, is my guess. So disabling it might just save their tech support alot of work. Unless it's a HUGE performance hit (and I'm not so sure it is), I doubt you want to use this with ATI anyway.

_____________________

BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Sezmra Svarog

Pointy-Eared Geek

Join date: 8 Jul 2004

Posts: 446

07-15-2004 10:16

Well I feel a lot better now.

ATi here too, AGP disabled. Oh well. At least I know it's not my chipset. Software mode? Things make a lot more sense now.

I sure hope this gets fixed in the future. :\

_____________________

- sezmra svarog
- slife.sezmra.com

Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

07-15-2004 11:47

Yeah me too.

Only my AGP wasn't broke but they sure fixed it.

Chromal Brodsky

ExperimentalMetaphysicist

Join date: 24 Feb 2004

Posts: 243

07-15-2004 14:14

Yeah, I also had no reliability problems with my Radeon 9800 with the 'AGP memory transfers' (or whatever it's called) checkbox selected in the preferences. I think it may have been the solution to a problem I wasn't having...

ATI and AGP accelleration
Fafnir Fauna Downy Cat Join date: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 34	07-13-2004 20:44 Will ATI cards with AGP accelleration on ever be fixed? Is it possible? Or is it something the developers of the hardware and driver need to fix? Running SL on my Radeon 9600 XT should not be giving me 10FPS, and I'm assuming it's because the program is rendering in software mode. [Edit] 10FPS with all graphics options set down to their lowest, I might add.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	07-13-2004 23:49 My card isn't so bad and it doesn't perform much better than that in bad areas sometimes. Not sure exactly what the "acceleration" does, but if it's anything like making the card communicate at the speed of a non-AGP card (PCI ), then.....OMG make'm fix it! _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	07-14-2004 09:58 They disabled AGP acceleration on all Macs, but mine was working just fine. We should at least have the option of using AGP, even if it is at our own risk.
Wadester Madison Registered User Join date: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 25	07-14-2004 22:09 I had many problems with my Radeon 9600XT at first. FPS was not really an issue, unless I pumped up the graphic settings. Apparently the best video card can't help you in complex areas, but I get decent FPS (~10) with above average graphic settings in moderately complex areas. I did have a major lock-up problem after 1.4. I found a thread where someone mentioned using the Omega video drivers instead of the ATI Catalyst drivers. At first, I was reluctant to use non-standard drives, but I had no choice -- and I'm glad I did! Not only did the complete system crashes vanish, but my overall performance increased by about 20% (based upon Futuremark's 3Dmark03 benchmarks)! Try it! http://www.omegadrivers.net/ BTW, my AGP is still disabled with the Omega drivers, but not really sure if that would make an improvement or not.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	07-14-2004 22:15 They were probably getting alot of issues related to people having it on, is my guess. So disabling it might just save their tech support alot of work. Unless it's a HUGE performance hit (and I'm not so sure it is), I doubt you want to use this with ATI anyway. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Sezmra Svarog Pointy-Eared Geek Join date: 8 Jul 2004 Posts: 446	07-15-2004 10:16 Well I feel a lot better now. ATi here too, AGP disabled. Oh well. At least I know it's not my chipset. Software mode? Things make a lot more sense now. I sure hope this gets fixed in the future. :\ _____________________ - sezmra svarog - slife.sezmra.com
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	07-15-2004 11:47 Yeah me too. Only my AGP wasn't broke but they sure fixed it.
Chromal Brodsky ExperimentalMetaphysicist Join date: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 243	07-15-2004 14:14 Yeah, I also had no reliability problems with my Radeon 9800 with the 'AGP memory transfers' (or whatever it's called) checkbox selected in the preferences. I think it may have been the solution to a problem I wasn't having...

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