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Christopher Omega

Oxymoron

Join date: 28 Mar 2003

Posts: 1,828

01-02-2004 19:55

Ugh... I was using grid and aligning my clocks when I noticed some major bugs with the building system.

I had the object rotated, but its local x axis was parallel to the global z axis (moving on it moved the object up and down). I commonly work in Local Axis mode, with Snap to Grid on. I had my grid set at .125, and when I shft-dragged one of my clocks upward, it went totally out of alignment with the grid, almost as much as .1 meters! There's a picture of the result of one of these shift-drags. As you can see, the clock in the middle is perfectly aligned with the clock below it (I had to manually set the numbers). I shift-dragged the middle clock up, and the top clock was *that* much off the grid. It even showed in the edit window that the numbers weren't multiples of .125. The middle clock was at an *integer* height, so the top clock, if snap to grid was working, would have been as aligned as the bottom clock.

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

01-02-2004 21:13

Did you bug report it in game?

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Catherine Omega

Geometry Ninja

Join date: 10 Jan 2003

Posts: 2,053

01-03-2004 10:14

Yeah, that's happened to me since I first used SL a year ago. Annoying, isn't it?

Nexus Nash

Undercover Linden

Join date: 18 Dec 2002

Posts: 1,084

01-03-2004 11:46

It is a pain... my solution... no grid! and manually set the numbers! Plus rreenter the rotations by hand. You see an INT but it it stored as a float! so when you see 0 it might be 0.3. So setting everything by hand worked for me!

Oh and wtf, stuff moves by itself! I set it.. come back and it's off by 0.002! what the hell?! what's up with that?

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Kex Godel

Master Slacker

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 869

01-03-2004 15:08

Gremlins.

Or short cat-people. =D

I hit this bug last night. I was also in local axis, so I assumed it was a local-context grid movement. I thought "cool", but I gave it no further thought nor did I verify that was what it was doing.

It'd be nice if we could have a feature that worked on a "local grid". For example, if my grid size is 1.0 and my object is at x-coord 111.25 and I move it east one grid tick while in "local grid" mode, it'd be at 112.25 instead of 112.0.

Ghoulie Skallagrimson

Member

Join date: 22 Nov 2003

Posts: 37

01-03-2004 18:13

Yes, very annoying. :|

Buck Weaver

Unsolicited Onterator

Join date: 18 May 2003

Posts: 251

01-03-2004 21:09

How about this? I have 2 buildings on top of Kissling that shrink every day. Either that or the plots of land they sit on are getting bigger. (though I doubt that, everything seems to be reduced since 1.2)

When I placed these buildings, just pre-1.2, they fit right to the curb of the street, but everyday I found myself stretching them back to the curb. I gave up now and pretty soon they will probably downsize to extinction (by the 12th anyway). Several bug reports have gone unanswered as the Lindens are probably too busy figuring out how to get more money out of the new customers rather than offering a stable product to their existing paying customer base. Sorry, had to get that dig in...

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

01-03-2004 21:29

ROFL, I'm an idiot. Is this a result of the same bug I reported a few months ago (which they are aware of)?
Lemme find the link to that thread....

It's named "Building Bugs! Die! Die! Die!" (don't you love my subject lines?) and Dan Linden explained a workaround.

/111/f8/7201/1.html

Not sure if it's the exact same problem or not, I'm too lazy right now to read this whole thread.

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BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Catherine Omega

Geometry Ninja

Join date: 10 Jan 2003

Posts: 2,053

01-05-2004 11:19

Yup, that's the one. It's been around for at least a year.

:sigh: More MAJOR building bugs.
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	01-02-2004 19:55 Ugh... I was using grid and aligning my clocks when I noticed some major bugs with the building system. I had the object rotated, but its local x axis was parallel to the global z axis (moving on it moved the object up and down). I commonly work in Local Axis mode, with Snap to Grid on. I had my grid set at .125, and when I shft-dragged one of my clocks upward, it went totally out of alignment with the grid, almost as much as .1 meters! There's a picture of the result of one of these shift-drags. As you can see, the clock in the middle is perfectly aligned with the clock below it (I had to manually set the numbers). I shift-dragged the middle clock up, and the top clock was that much off the grid. It even showed in the edit window that the numbers weren't multiples of .125. The middle clock was at an integer height, so the top clock, if snap to grid was working, would have been as aligned as the bottom clock. _____________________ October 3rd is the Day Against DRM (Digital Restrictions Management), learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	01-02-2004 21:13 Did you bug report it in game? _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Catherine Omega Geometry Ninja Join date: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2,053	01-03-2004 10:14 Yeah, that's happened to me since I first used SL a year ago. Annoying, isn't it?
Nexus Nash Undercover Linden Join date: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 1,084	01-03-2004 11:46 It is a pain... my solution... no grid! and manually set the numbers! Plus rreenter the rotations by hand. You see an INT but it it stored as a float! so when you see 0 it might be 0.3. So setting everything by hand worked for me! Oh and wtf, stuff moves by itself! I set it.. come back and it's off by 0.002! what the hell?! what's up with that? _____________________ Nexus Nash Co-Founder GigasSecondServer AzureIslands Proposals Proposal 1165 - Inventory Shortcuts
Kex Godel Master Slacker Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 869	01-03-2004 15:08 Gremlins. Or short cat-people. =D I hit this bug last night. I was also in local axis, so I assumed it was a local-context grid movement. I thought "cool", but I gave it no further thought nor did I verify that was what it was doing. It'd be nice if we could have a feature that worked on a "local grid". For example, if my grid size is 1.0 and my object is at x-coord 111.25 and I move it east one grid tick while in "local grid" mode, it'd be at 112.25 instead of 112.0.
Ghoulie Skallagrimson Member Join date: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 37	01-03-2004 18:13 Yes, very annoying. :\|
Buck Weaver Unsolicited Onterator Join date: 18 May 2003 Posts: 251	01-03-2004 21:09 How about this? I have 2 buildings on top of Kissling that shrink every day. Either that or the plots of land they sit on are getting bigger. (though I doubt that, everything seems to be reduced since 1.2) When I placed these buildings, just pre-1.2, they fit right to the curb of the street, but everyday I found myself stretching them back to the curb. I gave up now and pretty soon they will probably downsize to extinction (by the 12th anyway). Several bug reports have gone unanswered as the Lindens are probably too busy figuring out how to get more money out of the new customers rather than offering a stable product to their existing paying customer base. Sorry, had to get that dig in... _____________________ My karma ran over your dogma. Thoughts become things.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	01-03-2004 21:29 ROFL, I'm an idiot. Is this a result of the same bug I reported a few months ago (which they are aware of)? Lemme find the link to that thread.... It's named "Building Bugs! Die! Die! Die!" (don't you love my subject lines?) and Dan Linden explained a workaround. /111/f8/7201/1.html Not sure if it's the exact same problem or not, I'm too lazy right now to read this whole thread. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Catherine Omega Geometry Ninja Join date: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2,053	01-05-2004 11:19 Yup, that's the one. It's been around for at least a year.

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