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All Hosts Of Mainland Clubs No Longer Allowed To Use Shouters: What Alternate Devices

Lias Leandros
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Join date: 20 Jul 2005
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12-10-2008 09:58
The LL community Team disrupted my event on Monday (the same event I have been having for years) to let me know I am liable for anyone using a shouting device in my venue. I think the new rule is that if the person in the sim is in your staff group - and they shout - your in big trouble (although I have not seen any documentation on this). None of the club hosts have been reprimanded for shouting. Just me (and I was not shouting - I was DJing). And no one new has moved into the sim or the surrounding sims.

They say that ALL shout devices send text out 100 meters. Does anyone know of a Host HUD device that has an adjustable shout distance?

I still do not know why I am responsible for someone else shouting. I will try to comply to this new undocumented rule - although I feel its just harassment.
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Ollj Oh
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Join date: 28 Aug 2007
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12-10-2008 10:10
llSay is 20m.
llShout is 100m.
It will fail to go over region borders up to 3 of 4 times, but should not.

You can set scripts to listen to various people, or anyone, and set that script more than 30m away (higher) from where any text source should be expected to savely assume that this was shouting (filtering out most normal chat) .
Then measure the real distance from the text source to the scripted object to check if it was shouting (simple procedure).
One script could not tell if anyone within 20m was shouting or not, so that needs 2 of these scripts in 21 meter distance from another.

That also could imidiately send a message to that person to tell him to be quiet, or to automatically kick it from the parcel.

So yes, you could be responsible to ban shouting from your parcel relatively easily.

on other hand, many script commands are SHOUTING error messages for various reasons.
Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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12-10-2008 10:14
I guess you'll need to:

* use a relay that uses llSay() instead of llShout() (and position the relays so they don't overlap your neighbors).

* tighten your club up so the whole dance floor is within 20 meters of the DJ

* move the DJ to the middle of the dance floor

* buy at least 40,000 square meters of land so your neighbors are all out of range
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Meade Paravane
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Join date: 21 Nov 2006
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12-10-2008 10:18
Only 35 votes. :(

From: SVC-1224
New feature: llParcelSay

Similar to llRegionSay, it might be nice to have a chat function that goes to every resident/script on a parcel. Since it'd be limited to a single parcel, I think the no-channel-0 restriction that llRegionSay has wouldn't be needed.


Vote for this new feature here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-10-2008 10:22
From: Meade Paravane
Vote for this new feature here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224

Oh yeh... another option...

* Vote for llParcelSay() [just checked, I already had]
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Lias Leandros
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Join date: 20 Jul 2005
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12-10-2008 15:33
Thanks for the info. I once had a relay system when the venue was re-built and the dancefloor became 30 meters wide. I'll look up some relay systems. Or perhaps one of those 'send text to' HUDs. Until I see other venue owners getting in trouble for other people shouting in and around their venue - I won't consider this a real issue.
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Yngwie Krogstad
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Join date: 7 Jun 2006
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12-11-2008 12:22
I remember also opening a jira proposing llParcelSay. But this one is reported by somebody else. Is there a way to look for jira entries I created? I can't find anything like that.

llParcelSay is a must.

*edit:

I just searched for my avatar name. It found two results, and nothing about llParcelSay. So I don't have a clue what happened to the one I put in.
Lias Leandros
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Join date: 20 Jul 2005
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12-11-2008 12:52
Parcelsay would be a excellent solution. Many venues are larger than twenty meters so it makes it impossible for the host to be on the dancefloor and greet new people coming in without shouting.
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