Renter's Blues - No Can Post Events :(
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Brace Coral
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Join date: 11 May 2004
Posts: 666
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05-11-2005 10:02
I heard tell that somewhen IF you are on the land owner's friend list you will be able to post events on the land you rent from them.
Is this for real?
Cuz good luck trying to pin down a busy landlord who owns a significant chunk of SL in and has tentants in the hundreds if not thousands in order to exchange Friendship. I'm not sure he or she would want all of us Friend-listed anyhow.
I suggest if its possible, to simply make it a group thing. Most rent situations are set up on land that is set to a group that you must join anyhow in order to build on the land.
Its much easier to just use an existing way business is done in here, then to create a new and cumbersome way to go about it.
Alls I can say is if its up to the Friend list, I can kiss any chance I have of holding events on my rented land goodbye.
Mind you I rented it in the first place so that I COULD hold classes and workshops on it - then BOOM - the new changes, and I'm assed out.
I've submitted my question about this for the townhall today as well, but I also wanted to start this thread, so if/when an answer comes down the pipelines, why heck yall can post it up right here.
I also wanted to put my suggestion about the group thing here to get anyone's opinions on that. Discuss. ty
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Timmy Night
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Join date: 4 Apr 2005
Posts: 291
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05-11-2005 10:16
Brace,
I am not sure who your landlord(s) have been, but obviously you have not been dealing with good ones. If you are a tenant at any of the Timmy Management Inc properties, you are added as a friend, because you are a friend.
Come check out Night Mountain and ask of the retailers and condominium renters what its really like to have a land owner like me.
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Travis Lambert
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,819
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05-11-2005 12:07
Timmy - is the friends list thing working now? I thought we were still waiting for the implementation on that. My understanding is that at the moment, the only folks that can allow others to post events on their property are Island Estate owners. Those of us on the mainland can't do this yet. If I'm incorrect on this - my god I'll be a happy pup 
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,858
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05-11-2005 12:27
From: Travis Lambert Timmy - is the friends list thing working now? I thought we were still waiting for the implementation on that. My understanding is that at the moment, the only folks that can allow others to post events on their property are Island Estate owners. Those of us on the mainland can't do this yet. If I'm incorrect on this - my god I'll be a happy pup  Any rental group that makes you join a group as a member will also allow you to post events - just as an example, I rent in Jai-By-The-Sea. I am a member of the group Jai-By-The-Sea, therefore I can post events there. (And have.)
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Travis Lambert
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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05-11-2005 12:36
Ahh - I think we're talking about two seperate things here. (But still, I hope I'm wrong).
The way I understand it today, there are two ways one can post events:
1. If you are a member of a group that the land is deeded to. ( A rental group, for example - when the land is deeded to the rental group).
2. If you are on the access list for an Estate (Island) - even though it is owned by an individual.
Mainland land owners who do not have their land deeded to group are still left out in the cold.
In my case, I own property in Isabel, which is on the mainland. The land is not group owned.
There is a feature forthcoming that will allow others to post events to my property when I add them to my friends list. However, unless I'm mistaken - this hasn't been implemented yet.
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Timmy Night
Cliff View Owner
Join date: 4 Apr 2005
Posts: 291
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05-11-2005 14:32
Travis,
I am sorry. I was speaking more on that the original poster seemed to feel that their landlord(s) were not communicative enough. Sorry about that mix-up.
As far as I know, the Lindens have not given us the tools that were promised 4 weeks ago. I too wait patiently, but hope that they are also working on the stability issues.
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Brace Coral
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Join date: 11 May 2004
Posts: 666
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05-11-2005 14:52
From: Travis Lambert Ahh - I think we're talking about two seperate things here. (But still, I hope I'm wrong).
The way I understand it today, there are two ways one can post events:
1. If you are a member of a group that the land is deeded to. ( A rental group, for example - when the land is deeded to the rental group).
2. If you are on the access list for an Estate (Island) - even though it is owned by an individual.
Mainland land owners who do not have their land deeded to group are still left out in the cold.
In my case, I own property in Isabel, which is on the mainland. The land is not group owned.
There is a feature forthcoming that will allow others to post events to my property when I add them to my friends list. However, unless I'm mistaken - this hasn't been implemented yet. OK so I'm guessing the land I'm renting on is only SET to the group I'm in and not DEEDED. Because it sure doesn't come up on my events locations list. I'm sure the friend's thing is a great idea in theory, it just won't work in practice for the reasons I've already stated. And I just can't wait to hear the complaints from landlords with all their tenants pestering them for Friendship access. To begin with the whole friends vs calling cards was to provide a level of privacy that had been asked for previously. Linking event posting to the friends list just makes the whole idea of that moot. And for the record, I like my landlord very much, and have no complaints. I'm looking at the big picture here and also taking a gander at this from the point of view of the land owners as well as the rentors. Think about it. What happens to either side affects the other. If its a major hassle for land owners to set up their renters to do events. It won't get done.
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Moonshine Herbst
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Join date: 19 Jun 2004
Posts: 483
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05-11-2005 17:20
Better to just petition for them to remove the stupid restriction. Why can't we just host where we want, period? Limiting our SL this way sucks and gives a bad taste in my mouth.
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Prokofy Neva
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Join date: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 3,698
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05-11-2005 17:27
If you rent from me, even a $25 stall, you can use the events list by joining one of my groups, because they are landed groups where the land is purchased on behalf of the group or deeded to the groups -- it is not the empty groups used by malls and clubs.
So get a stall in one of my malls and you can use the event spaces.
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Brace Coral
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Join date: 11 May 2004
Posts: 666
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05-11-2005 17:30
From: Prokofy Neva If you rent from me, even a $25 stall, you can use the events list by joining one of my groups, because they are landed groups where the land is purchased on behalf of the group or deeded to the groups -- it is not the empty groups used by malls and clubs.
So get a stall in one of my malls and you can use the event spaces. The land I'm renting is for the New Citizens Inc group. There is a small sandbox area for building and tutoring. And I had hoped to be able to give classes, and offer the space to the Helpers in my group to do SL Basics classes there too. So thanks for the stall offer - I've had my own store for almost a year now 
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