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Foundation For Rich Content Winter Awards

Persephone Phoenix
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12-23-2008 19:39
The Foundation for Rich Content is pleased to announce its Winter Awards for L$60,000 in total split into three grants. Out of the many deserving applicants, the winners selected for the award were Pipsqueak Fiddlesticks' project Burning Bright (a 3-dimensional representation of William Blake's artwork and poetry), Da Vinci Isle (an island that, through many projects and galleries blends the work of First Life and Second Life artists in many genres and helps First Life artists transition to SL), and Gave at the Office (An original play by Lailu Loon to be staged in SL).

Because the FFRC strives to maintain transparency in all of its dealings (and because we unfortunately lost the Google Groups page to which we used to post our information) we are posting our chatlog, illuminating our decision making process, below. The FFRC is open to the public. Any SL resident can join, participate in or merely attend meetings. The next meeting will be the first Saturday of February at 1 pm SL time.

[13:05] You: I'm good with going ahead. How do you feel Jamys?
[13:05] Jamys Vuckovic: We have been pretty much the three "principals"... the rest has been a rotating group of additional votes.
[13:05] Jamys Vuckovic: I don't see anything wrong with going ahead.
[13:05] You: k let's start discussion then. In alphabetical order I suppose.
[13:05] You: Artisans cooperative is first.
[13:05] Troy McLuhan: Can you remind me how many we can award?
[13:06] You: unless there are any that people would like to eliminate on the basis that they don't meet requirements.
[13:06] You: we can award up to 3 awards of $20,000 lindens.
[13:06] You: we don't have to award all 3.
[13:06] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:06] You: We may choose to award 0, 1, 2 or 3 grants of L$20,000 each.
[13:06] Troy McLuhan: Only one applicant asked for Orange Create land
[13:07] You: I am a little disappointed at Orange.
[13:07] You: The last person we recommended to them didn't ever get build perms.
[13:07] Troy McLuhan: Hmm
[13:07] Jamys Vuckovic: I was wondering about that.
[13:07] You: so I'm not certain that we can make that land grant award.
[13:07] You: I need to talk to Adri to find out what is going on there.
[13:07] Troy McLuhan: Well, the one group who asked for it just wants to use the land for avertising. I was going to recommend not giving it to them to do that anyway
[13:08] You: She may no longer be involved with them, though. ahhh yeah that was the other issue. lol
[13:08] You: I haven't yet disqualified applications for not following notecard naming directions but . . . I'm tempted to after the trouble I had finding all these in inventory.
[13:08] You: lol
[13:09] Jamys Vuckovic: Heh
[13:09] You: I liked getting them via email better.
[13:09] You: considerations for future calls for proposals (assuming we fundraise)
[13:09] Jamys Vuckovic: Well I would move we forgo the Orange grant based on what I'm hearing.
[13:09] You: anyway back kkto Artisans Cooperative. (yes and wait on the orange grant until Adri clarifies what's happening)
[13:10] You: I like this idea but I don't think they need us.
[13:10] Jamys Vuckovic: When I first read this I'm like "they're asking us to subsidize a store... but the further I get into it the more I like it.
[13:10] Troy McLuhan: I visited the purported location of their parcel earlier today
[13:10] You: If they form a coop they will draw strength from one another and will make money from their sales.
[13:10] You: yes?
[13:10] You: what did you see?
[13:11] Troy McLuhan: All I saw was some vehicles sitting around on some group-owned land
[13:11] You: also they primarily want money to pay teir.
[13:11] Jamys Vuckovic: So you're thinking it's a vapor project, perhaps, Troy?
[13:12] You: which has been a consideration for us before, given that there are many places to house events and content.
[13:12] Troy McLuhan: I'm thinking they already gave up the land since they wrote the proposal
[13:12] Troy McLuhan: Either that or they collect vehicles
[13:12] You: I'd be tempted to eliminate this proposal on the basis that the actual content is speculative at the extreme
[13:12] You: and that they are seeking money for Tier.
[13:13] Jamys Vuckovic: It does say in their app that they'd like to seek other locations... and yeah... money for Tier has always been kinda iffy.
[13:13] You: Talented builders can always take part in the Linden Galleria lotteries or can use slexchange / slboutique (whatever those are called now)
[13:13] Jamys Vuckovic: XstreetSL and OnRez
[13:13] Jamys Vuckovic knows cuz he gets email from them all the time now.
[13:13] You: that's my impulse with this is to pass on information about where they might showcase works.
[13:13] You: haha
[13:14] Jamys Vuckovic: too bad it's always the free stuff :P
[13:14] You: well that's a good sign, Jamys. :) Are you selling lots? aww. hahaha
[13:14] You: any other discussion on Artisans?
[13:14] You: if not lets move on to burning bright.
[13:14] Troy McLuhan: They'd be better off setting up a store near other artistan stuff
[13:14] Jamys Vuckovic: I like the idea, but I hear the concerns about it and I'm inclined to move on to the other apps.
[13:14] You: I agree Troy. There are other artisans cooperatives aplenty.
[13:15] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:15] You: They might do well to talk to filthy at artopolis for example.
[13:15] You: ok on to burning bright.
[13:16] Troy McLuhan: They seem highly credible and even gave a timeline!
[13:16] You: It is probably no surprise that I love this one.
[13:16] You: they have a well-written proposal with big, bold goals.
[13:16] Jamys Vuckovic: This is interesting. Very tightly focused (which I like)... I could see this being a display in the lines of the Van Gogh exhibit and stuff like that
[13:16] You: And I am very interested in the idea of walking through / into william Blake's art
[13:16] Persephone Phoenix nods
[13:17] You: I think this proposal is in my top 3 for sure.
[13:17] Jamys Vuckovic: It's educational and interactive.
[13:17] Jamys Vuckovic: and yes, the proposal is credible. They seem to know where they're going.
[13:17] You: any further discussion? Can we move on to Da Vinci Isle?
[13:18] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:18] Jamys Vuckovic: This one goes in my top three, and yes lets move on
[13:18] You: ok. I will declare an affiliation with Da Vinci but I think it doesn't represent a conflict.
[13:18] You: Nonetheless I should say that I sometimes host events on their land
[13:18] You: every other wednesday.
[13:18] You: I collect no money from them though.
[13:19] You: I host events and read a lot of places in sl. lol
[13:19] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:19] Jamys Vuckovic: No financial interest, though.
[13:19] You: but I figured I'd say that up front.
[13:19] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:19] You: nope. No financial interest.
[13:19] Jamys Vuckovic: I've only been over there once, I think
[13:20] Jamys Vuckovic: Didn't take much of a look around.
[13:20] Troy McLuhan: They seem to have a lot going on
[13:20] You: What I like about their work is that, by bringing better known rl artists and writers in world, they are working to legitimize SL artists and writers.
[13:20] You: they are blending the two.
[13:20] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:20] You: yeah there is almost always something going on.
[13:20] Jamys Vuckovic: Introducing the SL to the RL and vice versa
[13:20] You: they do have two paid staff persons
[13:21] You: Kalli and Karli
[13:21] You: lol
[13:21] You: I love how their names are similar.
[13:21] You: anyway.
[13:21] Jamys Vuckovic: The grant appears to be operating expenses, essentially?
[13:22] You: I know that the work produced on Da Vinci is of pretty high quality usually. They often have talented artists in their galleries and writers reading.
[13:22] Troy McLuhan: They did mention putting on some special events
[13:22] You: yeah
[13:22] Jamys Vuckovic nods
[13:22] You: they host several series including a reading series
[13:23] You: at a little bookstore
[13:23] Troy McLuhan: Cool
[13:23] You: music etc.
[13:23] Jamys Vuckovic: I like the RL outreach aspect particularly
[13:23] Troy McLuhan: Yeah, they should apply for that Linden Prize too (10,000 USD)
[13:23] You: Standing Stone Gallery has a wonderful exhibit up at the moment.
[13:23] You: Linden Prize?
[13:23] You: do you have a url for that, Troy?
[13:23] Jamys Vuckovic: Hadn't heard of that, but hopefully they've thought of it.
[13:23] Troy McLuhan: Yes one sec...
[13:24] Troy McLuhan: http://lindenlab.com/lindenprize
[13:24] You: super. That might be good to pass on to applicants too. ahh awesome. ;)
[13:24] Troy McLuhan: It's only for the ones that have a strong connection to RL
[13:24] Jamys Vuckovic glances... Yeah, looks like they'd be a good fit for that.
[13:25] Troy McLuhan: Anyway, let's move on to the next one
[13:25] You: ok
[13:25] Jamys Vuckovic: I'm favorable to this one, shall we move on?
[13:25] Jamys Vuckovic: You guys are faster than me :)
[13:25] You: yeah this is in my top 3 too i think
[13:25] You: but i might be convinced otherwise. :)
[13:26] Jamys Vuckovic: which one of these is next?
[13:26] You: Coordinated School
[13:26] Troy McLuhan: Health
[13:27] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:27] You: Coordinated School Health
[13:27] Jamys Vuckovic: I'm not really feeling this one
[13:27] Troy McLuhan: They have their heart in the right place, but using SL to achieve that end?
[13:28] Jamys Vuckovic: It's an admirable goal, but as a "rich content" project I'm not seeing it. The audience is fairly narrow for it, and I'm with Troy that I'm not sure SL is the best path to their goal.
[13:28] You: yeah this could be done on a website.
[13:28] You: it isn't clear how the content needs to happen in sl
[13:28] You: or how they will connect with their ideal audience.
[13:28] You: I do like the idea but not so much the proposal.
[13:28] Jamys Vuckovic: Or even what kind of exhibits they would have
[13:29] Troy McLuhan: It's the sort of thing I can see The Ad Council taking up, or a public health program
[13:29] Persephone Phoenix nods
[13:29] Jamys Vuckovic: If there were a little more of a detailed vision set forth here I might be talked into it, but I can't envision it as written.
[13:30] You: ok next proposal?
[13:30] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:30] Jamys Vuckovic: maybe if we don't select this one we refer it back and ask them to get a little more in depth with it... Yes, next please.
[13:30] You: Opera Joven
[13:30] Troy McLuhan: I think they've applied before
[13:30] Jamys Vuckovic: Have we awarded this project before?
[13:30] You: Yes.
[13:30] Jamys Vuckovic: I know I've heard the name.
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Chatlog part II
12-23-2008 19:40
[13:30] You: nope not this project
[13:31] You: but they did apply before
[13:31] You: we hooked them up with the London School of Journalism who was looking to sponsor free land.
[13:31] Jamys Vuckovic: Ah. right.
[13:31] Jamys Vuckovic: So this one is more of a visual project
[13:31] Jamys Vuckovic: Virual Jalisco.
[13:32] You: Yes it looks like they need money for builders and staff
[13:32] You: I have gone to one of their performances and was impressed
[13:32] Jamys Vuckovic nods... I think I've heard Brent.
[13:32] Troy McLuhan: Is there room at the LSJ land to build virtual Jalisco?
[13:32] Jamys Vuckovic: possibly... hard to recall.
[13:32] You: no
[13:33] Jamys Vuckovic: Generally speaking if they are well done I really enjoy the "virtual real world location" type of places.
[13:33] You: well anyway if I recall, LSJ was willing to free up 500 prims or something
[13:34] You: but I would guess this might need more than 500 prims.
[13:34] Jamys Vuckovic: They don't say here, it's possible they might be doing it on that land, but need builder costs?
[13:34] Jamys Vuckovic: wait.. I guess there is an Opera Joven sim they want to place it at
[13:34] Jamys Vuckovic: sounds like they might be funding multiple projects here.
[13:35] Troy McLuhan: They say that they are still using the LSJ sim too - for the EDUCATION events every two weeks
[13:35] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:35] You: ahh that makes sense. Yes I see that now.
[13:35] Jamys Vuckovic: Ok, I think I get this.
[13:36] Jamys Vuckovic: Building costs for the Jalisco thing and other operating expenses for the other stuff as well.
[13:36] You: well that was a good connection. yeah I think the proposal writer was trying to show how it is art, culture and education.
[13:36] You: yep
[13:36] Jamys Vuckovic: Last time we considered these guys, I felt it was a pretty solid project, as I recall.
[13:36] Troy McLuhan: I guess they aren't asking for tier. They must be getting that elsewhere
[13:37] Persephone Phoenix nods
[13:37] Jamys Vuckovic: Education, interaction, visual interest.
[13:37] Troy McLuhan: and opera
[13:37] Jamys Vuckovic: All stuff I think of as "rich content".
[13:37] You: I like this group. The proposal is a little confusing but on a second or third read, it makes sense.
[13:37] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:37] Jamys Vuckovic: I could get behind this.
[13:38] Jamys Vuckovic: Do we want to press on?
[13:38] You: further discussion or are we ready? yeah let's press on
[13:38] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:38] You: The next proposal is also very interesting though poorly named notecard!
[13:38] You: Bad Bad Lailu.
[13:38] You: lol
[13:38] Jamys Vuckovic: Heh
[13:39] Troy McLuhan: Which one is that? I have them all printed on paper
[13:39] You: I have seen Lailu's first play "The Sanity Patrol" which was freaky good I thought.
[13:39] Jamys Vuckovic: I gave at the office
[13:39] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:39] You: this one is called I gave at the office. yes.
[13:39] Jamys Vuckovic: (Troy's all organized over there where I'
[13:39] Jamys Vuckovic: m chasing notecards all over the screen
[13:39] Jamys Vuckovic: )
[13:40] You: She has a place. She has a valid use for the funds. She has a good contact with Rekka
[13:40] You: I think this is super strong and doable
[13:40] Jamys Vuckovic nods. Yes... not a "pie in the sky" thing :)
[13:41] Jamys Vuckovic: The play sounds interesting.
[13:41] Troy McLuhan: Yeah
[13:41] You: Very clear. Lailu follows through too.
[13:41] Jamys Vuckovic nods...
[13:41] You: I worked with her in "In the Pink" and she was very on the ball.
[13:42] You decline New Caerleon Opening Sunday the 7th, 11am SLT from A group member named Sabrinaa Nightfire.
[13:42] You: more discussion? or on to the next?
[13:42] Jamys Vuckovic: The decision I have to make here is between this, which is a limited run, and the more permanent projects. I very much like these SL theatre productions, though.
[13:42] Troy McLuhan: I've seen a couple of plays in SL and enjoyed them
[13:42] Persephone Phoenix nods (yes but original work which for me makes it more rich content)
[13:42] Jamys Vuckovic: At leas t to the point-anything- is "permanent" on the grid.
[13:43] Troy McLuhan: Good point
[13:43] You: it's a tough one. I think we do have enough strong proposals to award all 3 grants though.
[13:43] Troy McLuhan: There's still one more to discuss
[13:43] Jamys Vuckovic: This one is in my "consider strongly" column... we have one more to look at?
[13:43] You: yep
[13:43] You: last but certainly NOT least Sail Away. :)
[13:43] Troy McLuhan: Very ambitious
[13:44] Jamys Vuckovic: And international
[13:44] Jamys Vuckovic: Do we have an idea what happens to the movie after it's made?
[13:45] Jamys Vuckovic: They gonna do inworld showings, or a youtube posting or something?
[13:45] You: It is certainly very ambitious
[13:45] Troy McLuhan: They're asking for the L$ to "communicate towards SL anglophones"
[13:45] Jamys Vuckovic: So, press, then.
[13:45] Troy McLuhan: "pay a press specialist"
[13:46] Jamys Vuckovic: The project sounds interesting, but I'm not sure of granting money for an advertising campaign.
[13:46] Troy McLuhan: Yeah I have the same concern
[13:46] You: Yeah
[13:46] You: I'd see using some money for ads but spending the whole thing on a pres specialist
[13:46] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:46] You: press specialist seems a little
[13:46] Jamys Vuckovic: Yeah. I'm not sure I'm on board for that.
[13:47] Jamys Vuckovic: I'd rather help pay for the production maybe.
[13:47] You: well -- yeah.
[13:47] You: also if the impact is only on the 35 people who produce the movie
[13:47] You: it isn't as good as if the movie would be screened in sl.
[13:47] You: I do like the sl / rl crossover aspect though
[13:47] Jamys Vuckovic: Yeah they don't really say what they are doing with the movie.
[13:47] You: and I am a fan of machinima.
[13:48] Jamys Vuckovic: I like the international involvment.
[13:48] You: I do too, Jamys.
[13:48] Jamys Vuckovic: Not sold on the grant, though.
[13:48] Jamys Vuckovic: anyone got something to convince me?
[13:49] Jamys Vuckovic: (Cricket noises)
[13:49] Jamys Vuckovic: heehee.
[13:50] You: haha
[13:50] You: well I think I'd like to help them hone the proposal maybe
[13:50] You: and encourage them to apply again assuming that we will have any future granting dates.
[13:50] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:51] Jamys Vuckovic: Definitely like the idea of the project, but I think we have 4 stronger candidates at this point.
[13:51] You: One thing I thought recently was that I will have more time very soon. 2 more weeks until I am done with my thesis.
[13:51] Jamys Vuckovic: yay!
[13:51] You: but that's another discussion.
[13:51] You: do we feel ready to vote?
[13:51] You: any further need for comment?
[13:51] Jamys Vuckovic: Yeah. How are we doing this?
[13:51] Jamys Vuckovic: top 3?
[13:51] You: Ok I'd say put your top 3 in order!
[13:51] You: your #1 then gets 3 points
[13:51] You: #2 gets 2 points
[13:51] You: and #1 gets 1 point.
[13:51] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:52] You: oops #3 gets one point rather
[13:52] You: does that make sense?
[13:52] Troy McLuhan: Yes
[13:53] You: I think also in the event of a tie that we can choose to split the award as we have in the past.
[13:53] Jamys Vuckovic: Ok.... 1. Burning Bright, 2. DaVinci Isle, and tough choice for three, but I think I'm going with I Gave. Joven seems to already have some legs under it and I think I would like to help the theatre project.
[13:53] Troy McLuhan: For me: #1. Burning Bright, #2. I Gave at the Office (Laila Loon), #3. Da Vinci Isle
[13:54] You: My 1 would be Burning Bright, 2 Da Vinci and 3 a tie between opera jovan and gave.
[13:54] Troy McLuhan: A tie? How do we award points then?
[13:54] You: half a point each. lol
[13:54] Jamys Vuckovic: Heh
[13:54] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:54] Jamys Vuckovic: Alright Burning bright gets 9, definite winner.
[13:54] Troy McLuhan: Yes
[13:54] You: so that gives burning bright the most points yes.
[13:55] Jamys Vuckovic: Da Vinci 5
[13:55] Persephone Phoenix nods
[13:55] Jamys Vuckovic: I Gave 3.5
[13:55] Jamys Vuckovic: Joven .5 point
[13:55] You: and opera joven .5
[13:55] You: yeah.
[13:55] You: sounds like overall we are on the same wavelength.
[13:55] Jamys Vuckovic: Sounds like we have winners.
[13:56] You: so we award Burning Bright, Da Vinci Isle, and Gave at the Office?
[13:56] Jamys Vuckovic: And yeah, the choice of the play or opera joven was tough for me too.
[13:56] Jamys Vuckovic: Yep. Looks like that's the story.
[13:56] You: or should we consider splitting that one between Opera and Gave?
[13:56] Jamys Vuckovic: Based on the vote I think I Gave wins fair and square.
[13:56] Persephone Phoenix nods
[13:56] Troy McLuhan: Yeah
[13:57] Jamys Vuckovic: Unfortuanately we can't fund them all, mucha s we might like sometimes.
[13:57] You: ok then. I will let Gabe know and let the applicants know asap
[13:57] Troy McLuhan: Awesome
[13:57] You: I'll also post the chat on the SL Forum
[13:57] Troy McLuhan: Thanks Perse
[13:57] Jamys Vuckovic: Cool..What's the url for the logs again?
[13:57] You: (chatlogging) Thanks Troy and Jamys for coming.
[13:58] Jamys Vuckovic: we lost the google group right?
[13:58] You: ugh not sure. lol. It's in the SL Forum
[13:58] You: yeah
[13:58] Jamys Vuckovic: okeydoke.
[13:58] You: we will devote the next meeting to that discussion
[13:58] You: and to the FFRC's future.
[13:58] Jamys Vuckovic nods.
[13:58] Troy McLuhan: ok
[13:58] You: Shall we make that in February?
[13:58] You: first of February?
[13:58] You: First Saturday of February that is?
[13:58] You: or January?
[13:59] Troy McLuhan: Maybe Feb. would be better
[13:59] Jamys Vuckovic: 1st sat in January is my birthday, so I might be doing something else.
[13:59] You: woot happy Birthday.
[13:59] Jamys Vuckovic: :)
[13:59] You: ok Let's say February then.
[13:59] You: :)
[13:59] Jamys Vuckovic: Ok.
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