Second Life Forums Archive - Can someone explain Dwell to me....

Ket Gould

Registered User

Join date: 30 Sep 2005

Posts: 56

10-12-2005 08:06

Hi there, Uber newbie here...

Just trying to get my head around the concepts of the game, and how people are making money and running clubs and other such things. One of the things I came accross is

"Camping Chairs" these are chairs that pay out a certain ammount of L$ per hour to encourage people to camp in them for ever. Ok obviously this has to do with the fact that the more people in an area, the more dwell someone gets and the better ranking they get on the events page. Ok cool help starving newbies out get some promotion and advertising.

Cool but how does it all work out, the place I found had about 20 seats, and they where going fairly hot and heavy, it seemed that it was about 10$ per hour per seat so where looking at 2,000L$ per hour so in my rough figure assuming 100% usuage 4800L per day.

Is dwell THAT high??? Do these people make cash doing this, does it really attract non campers to the location? Am i missing something major in my thoughts?

Aliasi Stonebender

Return of Catbread

Join date: 30 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,858

10-12-2005 08:23

From: Ket Gould

Hi there, Uber newbie here...

Just trying to get my head around the concepts of the game, and how people are making money and running clubs and other such things. One of the things I came accross is

"Camping Chairs" these are chairs that pay out a certain ammount of L$ per hour to encourage people to camp in them for ever. Ok obviously this has to do with the fact that the more people in an area, the more dwell someone gets and the better ranking they get on the events page. Ok cool help starving newbies out get some promotion and advertising.

Cool but how does it all work out, the place I found had about 20 seats, and they where going fairly hot and heavy, it seemed that it was about 10$ per hour per seat so where looking at 2,000L$ per hour so in my rough figure assuming 100% usuage 4800L per day.

Is dwell THAT high??? Do these people make cash doing this, does it really attract non campers to the location? Am i missing something major in my thoughts?

Dwell isn't that high, no. But the money spent there is a sort of "advertising budget", aimed towards getting a higher score on the find directory. The idea is, being up high will encourage people to visit there first, and thus buy things.

_____________________

Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?”
Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

10-13-2005 10:16

Here's what you need to know:

There are two gods in Second Life: Dwellnor and Laggnor. Worshiping either one will piss off the other, so choose who you pay homage to carefully.

Worshiping Dwellnor will cause Laggnor to smite you with slow performance. Rumor has it that Laggnor will go into exile in 1.7, but this is unconfirmed.

Worshiping Laggnor will give you a smooth SL experience, however Dwellnor will forsake you, and curse your Tringo events.

Seriously, if you want more information on Dwell (Traffic) - consult the thread here: What is Dwell?

_____________________

------------------
The Shelter

The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.

Logan Bauer

Inept Adept

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,237

10-13-2005 10:24

From: Travis Lambert

Here's what you need to know:

There are two gods in Second Life: Dwellnor and Laggnor. Worshiping either one will piss off the other, so choose who you pay homage to carefully...

LMAO, great metaphor man.

_____________________

PICS -

BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/
XSTREET -

INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/

Techzen Omega

Registered User

Join date: 31 Dec 1969

Posts: 58

10-13-2005 11:30

Can anyone tell me if Traffic totally resets to "0" everyday? For a few days my traffic seemed to be stuck at 58. Yesterday it jumped to 404. This morning it is at 38. Is this normal? I never really paid much attention to it but now that the search feature is screwed up and my sales have dropped through the floor I have started to try to keep track of it.

_____________________

___________________________________________________

"Techzen, you definitely DO NOT suck at the forums." - Alicia Eldritch

"Do you think I'd get in trouble if I took a portable paint sprayer on a paintball field and said it was a paintball flamethrower"? "---SenorBiggles (Anandtech Forums)

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

10-13-2005 11:34

From: Techzen Omega

Can anyone tell me if Traffic totally resets to "0" everyday? For a few days my traffic seemed to be stuck at 58. Yesterday it jumped to 404. This morning it is at 38. Is this normal? I never really paid much attention to it but now that the search feature is screwed up and my sales have dropped through the floor I have started to try to keep track of it.

Yes. Traffic is reset on a daily basis, and is only cumulative for that time. To show a constant value, it must be sustained. Don't ever try too hard tho, that's not fun and burns people out in here.

DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! (great one Travis)

_____________________

Techzen Omega

Registered User

Join date: 31 Dec 1969

Posts: 58

10-13-2005 13:07

Thanks Torley

DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! Amen. Embrace the lag and the lag shall set you free!

_____________________

___________________________________________________

"Techzen, you definitely DO NOT suck at the forums." - Alicia Eldritch

"Do you think I'd get in trouble if I took a portable paint sprayer on a paintball field and said it was a paintball flamethrower"? "---SenorBiggles (Anandtech Forums)

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

10-13-2005 13:08

From: Techzen Omega

Thanks Torley

DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! Amen. Embrace the lag and the lag shall set you free!

hahaha omg

now THAT's gotta be one of those gestures people play over and over in the WA

_____________________

Logan Bauer

Inept Adept

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,237

10-14-2005 10:17

I wonder who would win in a no-holds-barred battle - the flying spagetti monster, Dwellnor, or Laggnor?

_____________________

PICS -

BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/
XSTREET -

INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/

Aliasi Stonebender

Return of Catbread

Join date: 30 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,858

10-14-2005 13:17

From: Logan Bauer

I wonder who would win in a no-holds-barred battle - the flying spagetti monster, Dwellnor, or Laggnor?

I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something.

_____________________

Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?”
Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

10-14-2005 13:18

From: Aliasi Stonebender

I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something.

HAHAHA omg that's great.

_____________________

Heuvadoches Naumova

Equus Exoticus

Join date: 6 Oct 2005

Posts: 174

10-14-2005 15:48

FSM 4TW!!!

Classic though on Dwell vs. Lag....

Higher Dwell means more peeps in area which (of course) = higher lag. Oh well, as long as I get paid my L$1 per 5min

_____________________

Respectfully yours,
Heuvadoches
[I try to be in character as much as possible.]

[left]Obligitory Advertisement: Pixel Crack Productions - Rainbow Tiger Island Mall
[/left]

Logan Bauer

Inept Adept

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,237

10-16-2005 09:12

From: Aliasi Stonebender

I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something.

LMAO, yes! "Why have we been wasting all this time fighting against our selves when the TRUE enemy is Canada? I think we've learned a very important lesson today, and that lesson is about the POWER of FRIENDSHIP!"

_____________________

PICS -

BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/
XSTREET -

INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

10-19-2005 08:57

Incidentally, I was digging around for something completely unrelated this morning, and came across this little nugget. Thought I'd share:

Transcript of Town Hall with Cory Liden re: SL Technology

From: Cory Linden

Cory Linden: L. How the !!(*#@ does dwell work?
Cory Linden: <another deep breath>
Cory Linden: OK, here we go: Every user gets 1 point of dwell to give out during the 24 hours between midnight and midnight. Any parcel of land that the user spends more than 5 sequential minutes on gets counted as a place that they spent time.
Cory Linden: Parcels owned by the resident (or group) are counted as if they were the same parcel. The user's 1 point is then evenly divided between those parcels
Cory Linden: So, if was online for 1 hour and spent 20 minutes on resident A's parcel and 40 minutes on resident B's parcel, resident A would get 0.333 from me and resident B would get 0.666 from me.
Cory Linden: Alternately, if I only spent 5 minutes online and spent all of it on resident A's land, she would receive 1 point from me. Those raw point totals are what is reported in the find window.
Cory Linden: To get from those to L$, we normalize the total against the total amount of L$ we are giving away that day and give out the money proportionately.
Cory Linden: If the owner is an individual, they just get the L$. If it is a group, then the L$ are split between the group members.
Cory Linden: There, clear as mud, right?

_____________________

------------------
The Shelter

The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.

Can someone explain Dwell to me....
Ket Gould Registered User Join date: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 56	10-12-2005 08:06 Hi there, Uber newbie here... Just trying to get my head around the concepts of the game, and how people are making money and running clubs and other such things. One of the things I came accross is "Camping Chairs" these are chairs that pay out a certain ammount of L$ per hour to encourage people to camp in them for ever. Ok obviously this has to do with the fact that the more people in an area, the more dwell someone gets and the better ranking they get on the events page. Ok cool help starving newbies out get some promotion and advertising. Cool but how does it all work out, the place I found had about 20 seats, and they where going fairly hot and heavy, it seemed that it was about 10$ per hour per seat so where looking at 2,000L$ per hour so in my rough figure assuming 100% usuage 4800L per day. Is dwell THAT high??? Do these people make cash doing this, does it really attract non campers to the location? Am i missing something major in my thoughts?
Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	10-12-2005 08:23 From: Ket Gould Hi there, Uber newbie here... Just trying to get my head around the concepts of the game, and how people are making money and running clubs and other such things. One of the things I came accross is "Camping Chairs" these are chairs that pay out a certain ammount of L$ per hour to encourage people to camp in them for ever. Ok obviously this has to do with the fact that the more people in an area, the more dwell someone gets and the better ranking they get on the events page. Ok cool help starving newbies out get some promotion and advertising. Cool but how does it all work out, the place I found had about 20 seats, and they where going fairly hot and heavy, it seemed that it was about 10$ per hour per seat so where looking at 2,000L$ per hour so in my rough figure assuming 100% usuage 4800L per day. Is dwell THAT high??? Do these people make cash doing this, does it really attract non campers to the location? Am i missing something major in my thoughts? Dwell isn't that high, no. But the money spent there is a sort of "advertising budget", aimed towards getting a higher score on the find directory. The idea is, being up high will encourage people to visit there first, and thus buy things. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	10-13-2005 10:16 Here's what you need to know: There are two gods in Second Life: Dwellnor and Laggnor. Worshiping either one will piss off the other, so choose who you pay homage to carefully. Worshiping Dwellnor will cause Laggnor to smite you with slow performance. Rumor has it that Laggnor will go into exile in 1.7, but this is unconfirmed. Worshiping Laggnor will give you a smooth SL experience, however Dwellnor will forsake you, and curse your Tringo events. Seriously, if you want more information on Dwell (Traffic) - consult the thread here: What is Dwell? _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	10-13-2005 10:24 From: Travis Lambert Here's what you need to know: There are two gods in Second Life: Dwellnor and Laggnor. Worshiping either one will piss off the other, so choose who you pay homage to carefully... LMAO, great metaphor man. _____________________ PICS - BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/ XSTREET - INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/
Techzen Omega Registered User Join date: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 58	10-13-2005 11:30 Can anyone tell me if Traffic totally resets to "0" everyday? For a few days my traffic seemed to be stuck at 58. Yesterday it jumped to 404. This morning it is at 38. Is this normal? I never really paid much attention to it but now that the search feature is screwed up and my sales have dropped through the floor I have started to try to keep track of it. _____________________ ___________________________________________________ "Techzen, you definitely DO NOT suck at the forums." - Alicia Eldritch "Do you think I'd get in trouble if I took a portable paint sprayer on a paintball field and said it was a paintball flamethrower"? "---SenorBiggles (Anandtech Forums)
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-13-2005 11:34 From: Techzen Omega Can anyone tell me if Traffic totally resets to "0" everyday? For a few days my traffic seemed to be stuck at 58. Yesterday it jumped to 404. This morning it is at 38. Is this normal? I never really paid much attention to it but now that the search feature is screwed up and my sales have dropped through the floor I have started to try to keep track of it. Yes. Traffic is reset on a daily basis, and is only cumulative for that time. To show a constant value, it must be sustained. Don't ever try too hard tho, that's not fun and burns people out in here. DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! (great one Travis) _____________________
Techzen Omega Registered User Join date: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 58	10-13-2005 13:07 Thanks Torley DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! Amen. Embrace the lag and the lag shall set you free! _____________________ ___________________________________________________ "Techzen, you definitely DO NOT suck at the forums." - Alicia Eldritch "Do you think I'd get in trouble if I took a portable paint sprayer on a paintball field and said it was a paintball flamethrower"? "---SenorBiggles (Anandtech Forums)
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-13-2005 13:08 From: Techzen Omega Thanks Torley DWELLNOR AND LAGGNOR PRAISE BE! Amen. Embrace the lag and the lag shall set you free! hahaha omg now THAT's gotta be one of those gestures people play over and over in the WA _____________________
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	10-14-2005 10:17 I wonder who would win in a no-holds-barred battle - the flying spagetti monster, Dwellnor, or Laggnor? _____________________ PICS - BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/ XSTREET - INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/
Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	10-14-2005 13:17 From: Logan Bauer I wonder who would win in a no-holds-barred battle - the flying spagetti monster, Dwellnor, or Laggnor? I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-14-2005 13:18 From: Aliasi Stonebender I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something. HAHAHA omg that's great. _____________________
Heuvadoches Naumova Equus Exoticus Join date: 6 Oct 2005 Posts: 174	10-14-2005 15:48 FSM 4TW!!! Classic though on Dwell vs. Lag.... Higher Dwell means more peeps in area which (of course) = higher lag. Oh well, as long as I get paid my L$1 per 5min _____________________ Respectfully yours, Heuvadoches [I try to be in character as much as possible.] [left]Obligitory Advertisement: Pixel Crack Productions - Rainbow Tiger Island Mall [/left]
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	10-16-2005 09:12 From: Aliasi Stonebender I think it would be like those superhero crossover comics where they fight and cause all kinds of mayhem for a bit, then realize it's silly to be fighting and team up against Godzilla or something. LMAO, yes! "Why have we been wasting all this time fighting against our selves when the TRUE enemy is Canada? I think we've learned a very important lesson today, and that lesson is about the POWER of FRIENDSHIP!" _____________________ PICS - BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/ XSTREET - INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	10-19-2005 08:57 Incidentally, I was digging around for something completely unrelated this morning, and came across this little nugget. Thought I'd share: Transcript of Town Hall with Cory Liden re: SL Technology From: Cory Linden Cory Linden: L. How the !!(*#@ does dwell work? Cory Linden: <another deep breath> Cory Linden: OK, here we go: Every user gets 1 point of dwell to give out during the 24 hours between midnight and midnight. Any parcel of land that the user spends more than 5 sequential minutes on gets counted as a place that they spent time. Cory Linden: Parcels owned by the resident (or group) are counted as if they were the same parcel. The user's 1 point is then evenly divided between those parcels Cory Linden: So, if was online for 1 hour and spent 20 minutes on resident A's parcel and 40 minutes on resident B's parcel, resident A would get 0.333 from me and resident B would get 0.666 from me. Cory Linden: Alternately, if I only spent 5 minutes online and spent all of it on resident A's land, she would receive 1 point from me. Those raw point totals are what is reported in the find window. Cory Linden: To get from those to L$, we normalize the total against the total amount of L$ we are giving away that day and give out the money proportionately. Cory Linden: If the owner is an individual, they just get the L$. If it is a group, then the L$ are split between the group members. Cory Linden: There, clear as mud, right? _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.

Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

Can someone explain Dwell to me....