Lag-0-lert

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SIM OWNERS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE LAG THEY CAUSE ON THEIR SIMS

Most Sim Operators are in business to make $$$

Sim Owners cram into their Sims as much as
15000+ Scripts and Prims causing most of the Lag on SL.
reducing the enjoyment of their guests

Not all Lag can be blamed on SL, Severs, Clients,
RAM or Global Warming

Its not right that some Sim Owners demand everyone
remove their few attachments to reduce Lag
when Owners dont remove theirs

Property Owners also overload their land with
Lag-Causing Scripts & Prims

They abuse their Rights & Privileges providing a
crappy lag-environment and get away with it
at everyone elses expense

However, Sim & Property owners, some of whom are the
worst offenders in causing Lag on their own property,
refuse to acknowledge thier culpability nor do they take
any responsibility for the Lag THEY cause ...
instead they laugh about it and blame it all on Second Life

It is about time that Property Owners be held
accountable for the Lag they cause

They are there to host SL citizens and, to hopefully provide
a reasonably comfortable and easy environment to move around in.

It is not right that Land Owners ruin the time
of their guests, who often spend their money
in intolerable conditions of Lag they themselves
are responsible for

Sim & Propetry Owners need to be held accountable
and responsible for the Lag they cause,
rather than merely blaming and mocking SL for all of it

Linden Labs needs to set new Guidelines of
Codes & Standards of Scripts & Prims allowed on Sims & Property,
and a new Anti-Lag Warning System to control and limit Lag

At each Sim Portal would be posted a Lag-O-Meter
indicating the amount of Lag on each Sim

Lag Inspectors would Monitor all Sims

Those Owners who violate Anti-Lag Codes would
be warned and/or Fined/Assessed for causing Lag as shown
in the enclosed graphic

Owners would be responsible for meeting the new guidelines,
by either:
A. reducing Scripts & Prims on their SIm/Land
B. expanding their Sim/Propetry to accommodate their volume of Scripts & Prims
C. simply go out of business

Those operators who meet the Guidelines would be rewarded
with a discount on their operating expenses


There are many Sim, Propetry, Club and Store Owners
who are the worst violators of causing Lag on SL,
and most of us know who they are, so they dont have
to be named here

As for me, i will not visit, nor pay out any money
on a Sim, or in a Store, that takes away from my
ease and pleasure of being there, because they have
chosen to overload their Sim, Store or Club with Lag-Causing devices


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So why exactly should someone be fined for overloading the server that they pay for?
If you don't like what's there, go somewhere else.

BTW, this is just wrong. Sim owners are not there to provide somewhere for you to go unless they decide to allow you in. A sim owner can blobk all access to anyone except themselves if they feel like it.

As an estate manager with access to the tools to be able to tell where lag is coming from, I can attest to these two things:

1. Most sim owners streamline their islands to run as smoothly as possible while still providing their guests the environment they want to present.

2. The lag caused by overscripted AOs, shields, huds, weapons, and mounds and mounds of bling IS the most likely cause for what is tanking the server. I can see the script runtime in ns when someone like you sits on something. If you could see it too (and actually understood what it meant) your jaw would hit the floor.

That is why they tell you to take it off or leave. Sounds to me like you didn't comply, probably got mouthy, and found yourself on the business end of a kick/ban.

Or it could be that, like most big business owners, they feel that they're the only one in the sim who matters. Their place just wouldn't be such a popular eyesore without four animated, scripted, particle-spitting dancefloors, gambling objects, and constant shout-outs from all of them.

What would it matter if they own the sim?
When I rent servers out in RL, I don't have anyone dictating to me how much of the processing power I may use on a box I pay for. Why should it be different in SL?

If sims were a virtual hosting kind of deal, then it would be understandable as resources would be shared, but then nobody would pay US$1600+ for virtual hosting in the first place.

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Itazura Radio

you see its really difficult to dignify your self-serving
misleading and erroneous comments with much of response ...

suffice to say, that since you say you are in Estate Management,
if you had done a little research by reading my SL profile,
you would have discovered your assumptions about me
are groundless and without merit, because i dont use AO's, wear Bling,
or much of anything else out of personal preference ...

consequently, i have nothing to get mouthy about,
nor do i ever find myself on the end of a kick/ban

you declare that:
"Most sim owners streamline their islands to run as smoothly
as possible while still providing their guests the
environment they want to present."

On what basis do you make that statement?
Have you done any research on the subject?
Have you done a comparative study of Sims and Lag?
Is there a co-operative program instituted by LL
and/or a large group of SIm owners soley for the
purpose of educating Sim owners as to how to "Streamline"
their Sims to reduce lag, to wrrant you making a statement like that?

I certainly havent heard of any such concerted or co-operative efforts
or program amongst Sim Owners, nor have any my Sim owner friends.

If there were such a program, i certainly would support it.

you see, when you make sweeping misleading and inaccurate generalizations,
coupled with your mouthy posturings towards me,
you render your remarks as having little credibility,
and being stereotypical of someone in Management and Building

what would be more accurate to say is,
that there some Owners of some Sims who use their Sims
as a business, such as Casinos, Stores, Clubs, Rentals etc.,
who have made improvements, such as "streamlining", as you call it,
to reduce lag ... Most notably Bad Girls, ParrotHead, Icedragons
Nomine, Nevermore etc.

To say that most do is completely falacious,
notwithstanding the fact that many Sims to begin with
dont have a Lag problem simply because there is little on them
to cause much Lag.

Regarding Sys Slade's comment ...
Personally i have no problem with any SIm or Property Owner
who chooses to overload their area with Lag causing devices,
as long as their Sim is not wholly a Business Enterprise


The Sim Owners who do cross the line with unnecessary lag,
are the ones who are in business to make money, and who expect,
invite and advertise for people to come to their Sims to spend
their money.

Those Sim owners who are in Business, in my opinion have a moral
and ethical obligation to make their Sims lag free within reason,
and they should be held accountable by some measures
for the Lag they cause.

There needs to be stronger parameters for Sim Owners in Business
and Merchandising who make Money & Profits to minimise Lag,
than for those Owners who simply use their Sim/Property for mostly
non-businesss activities, gatherings and events.

As far as overscripted attachments some people use,
such as shields, weapons, bling, AO's and Huds.
perhaps they and the Avatars wearing them should be set
to maximum standard too.




and on a final note Itazura ...

it sounds like your Estate Management skills and abilities are questionable,
when ironically you yourself become the very thing you arbitrarliy mock
and criticize ... ... mouthy


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I'm tempted to buy a sim and fill it with script upon script and a gazillion textures all 2048x2048 and invite Arsenic Soyinka over.

I love how someone is saying sim owners are bad because they pay for something then build what they wish. If someone dont like it buy your own place and stay there. If I pay for it I will build it.

Sim owners paid for thier sim in the first place and pay the monthly fees. They have no 'moral or ethical obligation' to do anything, it is thier wholely owned sim and they will do as they please, as it should be. If you don't like what a sim is like, no one is making you go there, or rent there, or buy there. It may be in thier best interest to make it as pleasant an experience as possible if its a business oriented sim, but other than that I don't know where the heck you get off dictating what a sim owner should do, and the idea of imposing penalties is ridiulous and insulting.

Land owners on the mainland who overburden a sim should be dealt with in some manner, its not fair to others who own land in a sim for one user to make it almost unusable. An idea is to place a ceiling on say, script perf, and dole it out as per the amount of land you own. If you go over your limit, all the scripts on your land get throttled. Would be a good tool for sim owners as well.

As far as a lag-o-meter? CTRL+SHIFT+1 is your friend.

Now get of your high horse and I'll get off of my soap box

Have you done any of the above to dispute it?

I as one do govern my sim as best as possible to reduce lag, and most of the commercial sims I visit (I'm not a club goer or gambler) do quite well at it, so I would personally have to agree that Itazura's statement is generally true in my experience.

He even drew a little punishment chart.

Bzzzt wrong answers, it's up to LL to improve the servers so they can handle what their paying customers want
Or are we still going to be on 256x256 sims and 117 prims per 512m in 5 years when other companies are supplying 10-100 times more?
If we want vehicles with more than 31 prims that work we should get them.

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~ditto~





in the meantime ...

for those sim/property owners who believe it is profitable griefing
their visitors, clients and customers ... ... then lagerrific for them!




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"moral and ethical"???

You're kidding, right? This is a joke.

Moral? Really? You think that morality and ethics come into this?

Seriously?

That blows my mind.

Yet another "I want to impose what I want, how I want to play SL on others" thread. Yeesh.

As for sweeping generalizations:

Um... did you read your first post?

This is a sensible statement. The rest was a bunch of pompous dreck. But it did make me laugh.