Live concerts in SL: Who would be interested/able?

So I'm sitting in a club.

(*gasp! Shock!* says everyone who knows I don't like clubs.)

But see, this club, the C-Note is hosting a live jazz session with smooth sax tunes courtsy of Flaming Moe. Yes it's laggy, even on a private island, but the music is still enjoyable and I can sit back, relax and enjoy my virtual Merlot.

So I guess this is sort of an informal survey: would anyone out there be interested/capable of performing pieces for a concert of some sort? (It could even be turned into a contest). It would most likely be a holliday-themed event for the first go, I would arange for the streaming server and figure out how to organize the technical side of things. Might even make a contest out of it.

The Who is interested in playing a live concert in SL??? yes! talkin' bout my g-g-generation!

seriously though that would be wicked cool. not much for jazz other than Coltraine though.

The Who without Keith Moon should really be called The Whom... They lost a huge part of their "bite".

I'm not a serious jazz head either, but if you don't know Miles Davis, you truly are missing a little piece of heaven on earth.

- Ace

P.S. Which reminds me of a editorial page cartoon I saw in a newspaper in Halifax, Nova Scotia the week when both Miles Davis and Theodore Geisel (aka Dr. Suess) died. The two are standing on a heavenly cloud, Geisel looking kind of wormy and geeky (as he was), and Miles decked out in Miles-ware and sporting a funky fedora with a feather about 9 miles long tucked along the side. Miles to Geisel, "So... You're Dr. Suess", and Geisel to Miles, "So... You're the Cat in the Hat".

Insert disclaimer here: the musician I was listening to last night was a jazz saxaphonist, the concert I'm proposing can be any music. ^.^

The more live music in SL by SL residents the better I say...

Jamie
SL Streaming - The Music Never Stops...
Shoutcast / IceCast Streaming Music Services

The more live music in SL the better....


Jamie

SL Streaming - The Music Never Stops...
Shoutcast / Icecast Streaming Music Services

If there are any musicians out there who might want to collaborate on such an endeavor, I'd be interested in extending my Tribal Drums tech to do something more complete, in terms of music.

Dyonis Blanc has already taken some of the same techniques I use for the drums, and has created musical "objects" that can play both in synch and in harmony with each other.

The basic technique takes 8-second sound bites, and then uses some scripting magic to make them all play synchronized with each other. With the drums, I have these "drum loops" all start on the same 8-second cycle, resulting in multiple "rhythems" coming from multiple drums, all playing toother. Its sort of an AV-driven drum machine.

What Dyonis has done is make it so that the various instruments stay on the same sequence of their sound bites, resulting in these various "instruments" playing harmoniously together.

Now....

If some musician wanted to create a "piece" that could be broken up into sequential 8-second long sound bites from the various "instruments" of the composition, it would be fairly straightforward to create objects in-world that, when used by AV's, played the composition back.

Bundle that with synchronized animations, and walla.... a "live band" in Second Life. It wouldn't be live in the sense that the music would be live, since the sound loops would have to be recorded and uploaded ahead of time. But it could certainly give us that live band look and feel, in that the AV's would be playing instruments, the music would be genereated by these objects, and the band would be moving and swaying to the music.

IM me in-world, or email me at [email]ace_cassidy@yahoo.com[/email] if you might be interested.

- Ace

If anyone is interesting in testing out streaming live into Secondlife, I run a streaming how class a few times a week.

I can also offer a test server to try out ideas. Once you are up and running we can provide a specific streaming server to suit you.

Jamie.
SL Streaming - The Music Never Stops...
Shoutcast / Icecast Streaming Music Services

In case anyone has wondered, I am doing my new live sets at Gina Dawn's Sunset Jazz club in Mallard (223, 163) which is a little less laggy. The C-Note lagged way too much for a good listening session, so I apologize to all of you "Coltrane" lovers out there.

Keep your eye on events, there is word spreading about live music in SL, and people are starting to realize that there is capability for it in SL. I play for reasonable rates, so if anyone is interested in private parties or holding an event at their establishment, contact me. I sing/play keyboards, and play the saxophone as well.

Moe

If I recall correctly, Thomas Dolby had tried to do live collaborative music over the internet under the name Beatnik. I cannot find any current references because I think it falied.

For a quick explanation of why this is hard, think of music at 120 beats per minute. That is 2 beats for every 1000 milliseconds. With 100ms latency between players (which is pretty good for the internet) you are already off by 10% per beat which would sound worser than a 4th grade band performance. This is the same reason marching bands have drum majors sending a visual (zero latency) signal to the musicians. Even the speed of sound is slow enough to un-synchronize a whole parade.

I think this needs to use some variation on Ace's drum technology or wait for Internet2. Sorry to rain on a parade; I love the idea and wish it could work.

I don't excpet it to be *that* colaberative. What I had in mind was more like a tallent show/open mic night where the performers did their thing individualy. The trick would be to get it all streaming to the same server.

Heya Malachi

1) I really like Dolby, "She Blinded Me With Science", "Gate To The Mind's Eye" (which isn't altogether that different from the visual component of SL)

2) And yes... "latency", that'll come up time and time again. At the best, the realized output will sound like some really moshy kind of nu-acid-jazz with massive amounts of (unintentional?) rubato and bizarre phrasing strewn all over the place. At the worse... IT SOUNDS LIKE CRAP!

Hahaha... there's always latency, and er, it's just a trick of minimizing it. Which, of course, is a pretty hard trick.

A more prescient way of carrying some of this out would be doing what has been discussed in times before, and arranging patterns into groups that could be triggered before they actually play, with some MSC (Master Sync Clock) locking everything together. If need be, a live sax could be played over the works and wouldn't sound too out of lockstep, but yah.

Darko and I are very interested in doing a live concert type thingy. We want to stream in video and do a RATM concert. Have RATM fans attend, buy tickets..etc. Is that possible???

Oh also I went to the Level the other night and Danc and some other guy were both spinning that night live. It was so fuckin' awesome. Loved it.