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Ginge Reymont
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09-10-2006 11:03
Luckily my paypal is buggered at the minute, but I mean LL is really in the shit this time with credit card info being exposed to the public, I guess they picked the right time to close the forums, this is really bad PR for Second Life to see that it cant keep info properly secured in a database.. Oh and they are using MYSQL arent they?
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09-10-2006 11:04
From: Ginge Reymont
Luckily my paypal is buggered at the minute, but I mean LL is really in the shit this time with credit card info being exposed to the public, I guess they picked the right time to close the forums, this is really bad PR for Second Life to see that it cant keep info properly secured in a database.. Oh and they are using MYSQL arent they?


For the second time.....

From: Robin Linden from the Linden Blog
No unencrypted credit card information is stored on the database in question. Unencrypted credit card information has not been compromised.
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-10-2006 11:08
From: Charissa Korvin
For the second time.....


Encrypted payment information was exposed - and the encryption on it is not particularly strong. We are already starting to see signs of tampering with Paypal accounts this weekend. From the blog:

From: Linden Lab

Detailed investigation over the last two days confirmed that some of the unencrypted customer information stored in the database was compromised, potentially including Second Life account names, real life names and contact information, along with encrypted account passwords and encrypted payment information.
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09-10-2006 11:09
From: Charissa Korvin
For the second time.....


But they still dont listen nor read all the forums before posting yet another LL OMG im so angry thread ;)
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Charissa Korvin
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09-10-2006 11:10
From: Cristiano Midnight
Encrypted payment information was exposed - and the encryption on it is not particularly strong. We are already starting to see signs of tampering with Paypal accounts this weekend. From the blog:


Aaaargh...Ok my bad I overlooked that part of it after re-reading that blog like..10 times.

Being in shock will do that.
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Charissa Korvin
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09-10-2006 11:11
From: Lord Sullivan
But they still dont listen nor read all the forums before posting yet another LL OMG im so angry thread ;)


*eyeroll* get a job
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09-10-2006 11:16
From: Charissa Korvin
*eyeroll* get a job


But the complainers have got a job for now at least until monday :)
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Charissa Korvin
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09-10-2006 11:19
From: Lord Sullivan
But the complainers have got a job for now at least until monday :)


lol...What do you mean till Monday? the Complainer's Dept. is staffed 24/7 here I thought?
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09-10-2006 11:27
From: Charissa Korvin
lol...What do you mean till Monday? the Complainer's Dept. is staffed 24/7 here I thought?


But then when the forums close they will be dispersed :)
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09-10-2006 11:31
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Charissa Korvin
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09-10-2006 11:39
From: Lord Sullivan
But then when the forums close they will be dispersed :)


Yes, yes indeed...

Fare the well sweet, sweet soap box.
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Wrom Morrison
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09-10-2006 11:42
I say..

We invade Russia and teach those hackers a lesson.
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Charissa Korvin
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09-10-2006 11:45
From: Wrom Morrison
I say..

We invade Russia and teach those hackers a lesson.


Those sneaky fucking russians!
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Ginge Reymont
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09-10-2006 12:27
From: Lord Sullivan
But they still dont listen nor read all the forums before posting yet another LL OMG im so angry thread ;)


Lol, im not angry if you read my post (Which i assume you didnt) I said that I have full control over my account and my paypal was really buggy while the credit stuff was exposed, so im not posting another "ZOMG LL YOU NOOBS" thread just saying Second Life's rep is going down the drain..
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09-10-2006 13:13
From: Ginge Reymont
Lol, im not angry if you read my post (Which i assume you didnt) I said that I have full control over my account and my paypal was really buggy while the credit stuff was exposed, so im not posting another "ZOMG LL YOU NOOBS" thread just saying Second Life's rep is going down the drain..


Sorry me bad ive just re read it and u r right :) and it is going down the drain but i am 99% sure they will recover this time :)
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09-10-2006 13:39
From: Lord Sullivan
Sorry me bad ive just re read it and u r right :) and it is going down the drain but i am 99% sure they will recover this time :)


Holy carp! You ARE Phil's Alt!! :D hehe
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09-10-2006 14:08
From: Macphisto Angelus
Holy carp! You ARE Phil's Alt!! :D hehe


OK if u want me to be him :)
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09-10-2006 14:08
From: Ginge Reymont
Luckily my paypal is buggered at the minute, but I mean LL is really in the shit this time with credit card info being exposed to the public, I guess they picked the right time to close the forums, this is really bad PR for Second Life to see that it cant keep info properly secured in a database.. Oh and they are using MYSQL arent they?


It's upsetting, for sure, however tomorrow I will order a new debit card and two days later all will be well again. This has happened to a large number of companies and we've heard about a fraction of them because of California's laws *requiring* prompt disclosure once an incident occurs. None of these companies seems to be "in the shit."

As a side note, I'd like to point something out: it is very difficult, as a society, to ensure the security of every merchant on the web and physical world. Maybe it'll be the pissed off teen with the photographic memory at the piercing pagoda in the mall or maybe it will be that porn site that you registered with earlier, but chances are that sometime in your life, your CC number will be stolen.

It makes vastly more sense to simply protect the credit cards themselves. The current system requires that you give every merchant all of the information that would be needed to take your credit card to *any* merchant and that's stupid. There are simple, secure systems involving one-time or merchant specific passwords and account numbers that are implemented in countries other than the U.S.

This does not get done in the U.S. because there is no financial incentive to do so. The banks make money on every transaction whether valid or not. If there's a chargeback due to fraud, the merchant loses, yet the merchant has to deal with the system that they're given by the credit card companies.

Either vote with your feet (by going where?) or complain to your lawmaker. And be pissed at LL, but they're just one of many and they're a victim in this, too.

p.s. -- who's going to step up to the plate and offer merchant-specific account #'s? Discover, are you listening? Paypal? Someone want to make yourself relevant and rich?