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Rob Petronius

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Join date: 29 May 2006

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06-05-2006 12:14

Has there been any movement on the ability to output chat or IM to a text file. Using this we can then use any locally installed TTS program and speak the text for any avatars we choose by simply searching for lines starting with their name. All we need is the file to start this new feature ideal for those with poor eyes or just an interest.

Iron Perth

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Join date: 9 Mar 2005

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06-05-2006 12:22

Yes, this would be ideal. I believe Eddy Stryker is working on reverse engineering the protocol with pcap.

Having that feed into a TTS system would probably be the ideal way to do it.

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Enabran Templar

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06-05-2006 12:24

Except that TTS sounds so hideous.

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Vares Solvang

It's all Relative

Join date: 26 Jan 2005

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06-05-2006 12:27

From: Enabran Templar

Except that TTS sounds so hideous.

Still, it's better than nothing. I love this idea. SL has always been a haven for the handicapped.

Iron Perth

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06-05-2006 12:31

Well, that didn't take long.

TTS aint all that bad.

http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php#top

IBM has a good package called viavoice as well.

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Fa nyak

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06-05-2006 12:40

true it's still got a ways to go, but i've heard some TTS programs that've gotten pretty decent. we've come a long ways since dr. spaitso!

i think a combination of TTS and STT will make for an interresting future compromise between people like myself who prefer text because we have roommates who don't wanna hear voice all day, and the people on the other end that want to talk to me in voice. i could say...send/recieve everything in text, and they could send/recieve everything in speech.

also lets the guys here who wanna claim they're girls talk with a (monotone) female voice

Eggy Lippmann

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06-05-2006 12:44

llListen, llEmail...

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Reitsuki Kojima

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06-05-2006 12:47

From: Eggy Lippmann

llListen, llEmail...

Too slow. And a PITA to set up.

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Fa nyak

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06-05-2006 12:51

reitsuki beat me to it. but yea. waiting on/parsing email adds more delay to the already present delay of waiting on the person to hit enter so it can start reading it aloud.

Eggy Lippmann

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06-05-2006 13:03

I love people who prefer to detract in abstract from an idea instead of giving it a shot.
It's truly people like these, with a can-do mentality and the drive to come up with solutions in the face of adversity, who make the world move forward!
Bravo

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Ordinal Malaprop

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06-05-2006 13:06

You could set up a server on your machine and run a PHP script that received HTTP requests and dumped the contents to a text file, that would be quick...

...okay, that might be a bit trickier to set up.

Rob Petronius

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06-05-2006 13:18

If we used a locally installed TTS program then there would be no bandwidth hit at all and you could choose to activate the voice for the people you want.

Ordinal Malaprop

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06-05-2006 13:19

Yeah, I agree. It would be much better if the client did that itself rather than you having to waste time with scripts and such.

Tsukasa Karuna

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Join date: 30 Jun 2004

Posts: 370

06-05-2006 13:23

There are some better TTS voices coming out that don't have that "computerish" quality to them... pity they aren't free

See:
http://www.cepstral.com/demos/
http://www.neospeech.com/demo/demo_text.php

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Reitsuki Kojima

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06-05-2006 13:23

From: Eggy Lippmann

I love people who prefer to detract in abstract from an idea instead of giving it a shot.

I actually did try it, thanks. It was one of my first thoughts for email.

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Fa nyak

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Posts: 342

06-05-2006 14:54

i didn't try it, i'm just sleep deprived. sorry eggs :3 is a valid idea hehe

Eddy Stryker

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Join date: 6 Jun 2004

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06-05-2006 19:35

Instructions were posted on the libsecondlife-dev mailing list on how to do this (client-side only). If anyone has experience with TTS software but needs help with the Snowcrash end of things let me know, it's very easy to recompile with the necessary hooks.

Rob Petronius

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06-07-2006 11:59

Hello Eddy,
Would this allow me to hear the text from IM and chat?

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Rob Petronius Registered User Join date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 4	06-05-2006 12:14 Has there been any movement on the ability to output chat or IM to a text file. Using this we can then use any locally installed TTS program and speak the text for any avatars we choose by simply searching for lines starting with their name. All we need is the file to start this new feature ideal for those with poor eyes or just an interest.
Iron Perth Registered User Join date: 9 Mar 2005 Posts: 802	06-05-2006 12:22 Yes, this would be ideal. I believe Eddy Stryker is working on reverse engineering the protocol with pcap. Having that feed into a TTS system would probably be the ideal way to do it. _____________________ http://ironperth.com - Games for SecondLife and more.
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	06-05-2006 12:24 Except that TTS sounds so hideous. _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Vares Solvang It's all Relative Join date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 2,235	06-05-2006 12:27 From: Enabran Templar Except that TTS sounds so hideous. Still, it's better than nothing. I love this idea. SL has always been a haven for the handicapped.
Iron Perth Registered User Join date: 9 Mar 2005 Posts: 802	06-05-2006 12:31 Well, that didn't take long. TTS aint all that bad. http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php#top IBM has a good package called viavoice as well. _____________________ http://ironperth.com - Games for SecondLife and more.
Fa nyak >(O.o)< Join date: 8 Oct 2004 Posts: 342	06-05-2006 12:40 true it's still got a ways to go, but i've heard some TTS programs that've gotten pretty decent. we've come a long ways since dr. spaitso! i think a combination of TTS and STT will make for an interresting future compromise between people like myself who prefer text because we have roommates who don't wanna hear voice all day, and the people on the other end that want to talk to me in voice. i could say...send/recieve everything in text, and they could send/recieve everything in speech. also lets the guys here who wanna claim they're girls talk with a (monotone) female voice
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	06-05-2006 12:44 llListen, llEmail... _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-05-2006 12:47 From: Eggy Lippmann llListen, llEmail... Too slow. And a PITA to set up. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Fa nyak >(O.o)< Join date: 8 Oct 2004 Posts: 342	06-05-2006 12:51 reitsuki beat me to it. but yea. waiting on/parsing email adds more delay to the already present delay of waiting on the person to hit enter so it can start reading it aloud.
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	06-05-2006 13:03 I love people who prefer to detract in abstract from an idea instead of giving it a shot. It's truly people like these, with a can-do mentality and the drive to come up with solutions in the face of adversity, who make the world move forward! Bravo _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	06-05-2006 13:06 You could set up a server on your machine and run a PHP script that received HTTP requests and dumped the contents to a text file, that would be quick... ...okay, that might be a bit trickier to set up.
Rob Petronius Registered User Join date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 4	06-05-2006 13:18 If we used a locally installed TTS program then there would be no bandwidth hit at all and you could choose to activate the voice for the people you want.
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	06-05-2006 13:19 Yeah, I agree. It would be much better if the client did that itself rather than you having to waste time with scripts and such.
Tsukasa Karuna Master of all things desu Join date: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 370	06-05-2006 13:23 There are some better TTS voices coming out that don't have that "computerish" quality to them... pity they aren't free See: http://www.cepstral.com/demos/ http://www.neospeech.com/demo/demo_text.php _____________________ ".. who as of 5 seconds ago is no longer the deliverator.."
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-05-2006 13:23 From: Eggy Lippmann I love people who prefer to detract in abstract from an idea instead of giving it a shot. I actually did try it, thanks. It was one of my first thoughts for email. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Fa nyak >(O.o)< Join date: 8 Oct 2004 Posts: 342	06-05-2006 14:54 i didn't try it, i'm just sleep deprived. sorry eggs :3 is a valid idea hehe
Eddy Stryker libsecondlife Developer Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 353	06-05-2006 19:35 Instructions were posted on the libsecondlife-dev mailing list on how to do this (client-side only). If anyone has experience with TTS software but needs help with the Snowcrash end of things let me know, it's very easy to recompile with the necessary hooks.
Rob Petronius Registered User Join date: 29 May 2006 Posts: 4	06-07-2006 11:59 Hello Eddy, Would this allow me to hear the text from IM and chat?

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