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Gladius Luchador

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Join date: 8 Feb 2005

Posts: 95

12-05-2005 03:05

... Do you forsee this happening sometime in the future?

Would you do it?

The idea peaks my interest. I think I'd do it.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

12-05-2005 03:19

Well, sure, except that given the database skills LL has shown so far, I suspect you'd get accidentally deleted.

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Issarlk Chatnoir

Cross L. apologist.

Join date: 3 Oct 2004

Posts: 424

12-05-2005 03:23

That would be cool, immersive 3D and all.. but then someone would use bling in front of you and you'd get an headache.

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Oerbewustzijn Archer

Registered User

Join date: 2 May 2005

Posts: 66

12-05-2005 05:09

This is maybe going to happen in future a slighty diffrent and yes i do it because the human and soul is all about evolution.

Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-05-2005 05:16

/stamped

Oh wait. It wasn't a feature suggestion?

Btw, what would happen to you during downtime?

The object Kris Ritter could not be found in the database
<cue 80,000 cheering residents>

Annah Zamboni

Banannah Annah

Join date: 2 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,022

12-05-2005 05:27

until someone gets hair right it will never be immersive

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

12-05-2005 05:47

I don't even want to think about the possibility of limb drift or the repercussions should you ghost.

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Annah Zamboni

Banannah Annah

Join date: 2 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,022

12-05-2005 05:49

or the teleport sex change...

Burke Prefect

Cafe Owner, Superhero

Join date: 29 Oct 2004

Posts: 2,785

12-05-2005 06:29

Wait. Wasn't the entire point that they were trying to get people out of the Matrix

Well. Anyway, we're already progressing along those lines, we've had bullet time since 1.7 cam out.

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Yumi Murakami

DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!

Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

12-05-2005 06:40

No, haven't you heard? Real life is the matrix within Second Life.

(Pictures Keanu Reeves dimly blinking back nausea, hands wandering to the unit fastened to his head, scrabbling for a catch, at least finding it and lifting the metal away, cold air touching the top of his head for the first time, spasms of pain as the connecters pull out, and looking back and forth, seeing nothing but row after row, stretching to infinity, of people sitting, heads slumped forward, in floating circular armchairs...)

Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

12-05-2005 07:24

I'd recommend that you read Permutation City, Diaspora, and Schild's Ladder by Greg Egan. Then after you get excited about the possibilities of uploading, read Accelerando by Charlie Stross.

Logan Bauer

Inept Adept

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,237

12-05-2005 07:26

Go on, let my brain get in there. I'll show you the first self-replicating brain to ever crash the grid. ;P

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Jessica Qin

Wo & Shade, Importers

Join date: 16 Feb 2005

Posts: 161

12-05-2005 07:44

From: Argent Stonecutter

I'd recommend that you read Permutation City, Diaspora, and Schild's Ladder by Greg Egan.

SL always reminds me of a cross between Permutation City and Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time -- the only thing Egan got wrong (I think) was that he forgot about all the party people.

Looking at it the other way around -- what if you could somehow bring your (indestructable) SL AV and capabilities into RL? There's a certain car-wash on the way home from my work that would be a smoking crater in about 10 seconds . . . There's a John Shirley novel called Demons that explores something like this happening. The results aren't pretty.

Jess

KittyKatt Kerensky

Registered User

Join date: 6 Sep 2004

Posts: 212

12-05-2005 07:50

YAY!, I'll be able to jack into my head and store 5 Terabyte of data,...oops, wrong movie, sorry

Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

12-05-2005 10:50

From: Jessica Qin

SL always reminds me of a cross between Permutation City and Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time -- the only thing Egan got wrong (I think) was that he forgot about all the party people.

Solipsist Nation? I'm sure Peer and Kate weren't the only ones getting freaky in Permutation City, they were just the ones on-stage and Egan had other plans for them.

From: someone

Looking at it the other way around -- what if you could somehow bring your (indestructable) SL AV and capabilities into RL?

I thought about this when I was cutting RL plywood when Hurrican Rita was on the way. I really wanted to select Create, click on the window, and in three CTRL-SHIFT-DRAGs the job would be done. But I'd probably just rez a big non-physical sphere over the whole lot instead.

DoctorMike Soothsayer

He's not a real doctor.

Join date: 3 Oct 2005

Posts: 113

Permutation city

12-06-2005 06:44

Can I wholeheartedly agree regarding Permutation City. I use it in my teaching, and it is an excellent intro to the ethical issues.

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Obic Malaprop

Registered User

Join date: 19 Sep 2005

Posts: 122

12-06-2005 14:24

it would depend on whether i would need a pose ball or anim to do any socializing....

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Gladius Luchador Secutor Join date: 8 Feb 2005 Posts: 95	12-05-2005 03:05 ... Do you forsee this happening sometime in the future? Would you do it? The idea peaks my interest. I think I'd do it. _____________________ We who are about to die, salute you!
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-05-2005 03:19 Well, sure, except that given the database skills LL has shown so far, I suspect you'd get accidentally deleted. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Issarlk Chatnoir Cross L. apologist. Join date: 3 Oct 2004 Posts: 424	12-05-2005 03:23 That would be cool, immersive 3D and all.. but then someone would use bling in front of you and you'd get an headache. _____________________ Vincit omnia Chaos From: Flugelhorn McHenry Anyway, ignore me, just listen to the cow
Oerbewustzijn Archer Registered User Join date: 2 May 2005 Posts: 66	12-05-2005 05:09 This is maybe going to happen in future a slighty diffrent and yes i do it because the human and soul is all about evolution.
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-05-2005 05:16 /stamped Oh wait. It wasn't a feature suggestion? Btw, what would happen to you during downtime? The object Kris Ritter could not be found in the database <cue 80,000 cheering residents>
Annah Zamboni Banannah Annah Join date: 2 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,022	12-05-2005 05:27 until someone gets hair right it will never be immersive
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	12-05-2005 05:47 I don't even want to think about the possibility of limb drift or the repercussions should you ghost. _____________________
Annah Zamboni Banannah Annah Join date: 2 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,022	12-05-2005 05:49 or the teleport sex change...
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	12-05-2005 06:29 Wait. Wasn't the entire point that they were trying to get people out of the Matrix Well. Anyway, we're already progressing along those lines, we've had bullet time since 1.7 cam out. _____________________ My Blog \| My Board \| My Cafe\| My Slex
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	12-05-2005 06:40 No, haven't you heard? Real life is the matrix within Second Life. (Pictures Keanu Reeves dimly blinking back nausea, hands wandering to the unit fastened to his head, scrabbling for a catch, at least finding it and lifting the metal away, cold air touching the top of his head for the first time, spasms of pain as the connecters pull out, and looking back and forth, seeing nothing but row after row, stretching to infinity, of people sitting, heads slumped forward, in floating circular armchairs...)
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	12-05-2005 07:24 I'd recommend that you read Permutation City, Diaspora, and Schild's Ladder by Greg Egan. Then after you get excited about the possibilities of uploading, read Accelerando by Charlie Stross.
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	12-05-2005 07:26 Go on, let my brain get in there. I'll show you the first self-replicating brain to ever crash the grid. ;P _____________________ PICS - BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/ XSTREET - INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/
Jessica Qin Wo & Shade, Importers Join date: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 161	12-05-2005 07:44 From: Argent Stonecutter I'd recommend that you read Permutation City, Diaspora, and Schild's Ladder by Greg Egan. SL always reminds me of a cross between Permutation City and Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time -- the only thing Egan got wrong (I think) was that he forgot about all the party people. Looking at it the other way around -- what if you could somehow bring your (indestructable) SL AV and capabilities into RL? There's a certain car-wash on the way home from my work that would be a smoking crater in about 10 seconds . . . There's a John Shirley novel called Demons that explores something like this happening. The results aren't pretty. Jess
KittyKatt Kerensky Registered User Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 212	12-05-2005 07:50 YAY!, I'll be able to jack into my head and store 5 Terabyte of data,...oops, wrong movie, sorry
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	12-05-2005 10:50 From: Jessica Qin SL always reminds me of a cross between Permutation City and Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time -- the only thing Egan got wrong (I think) was that he forgot about all the party people. Solipsist Nation? I'm sure Peer and Kate weren't the only ones getting freaky in Permutation City, they were just the ones on-stage and Egan had other plans for them. From: someone Looking at it the other way around -- what if you could somehow bring your (indestructable) SL AV and capabilities into RL? I thought about this when I was cutting RL plywood when Hurrican Rita was on the way. I really wanted to select Create, click on the window, and in three CTRL-SHIFT-DRAGs the job would be done. But I'd probably just rez a big non-physical sphere over the whole lot instead.
DoctorMike Soothsayer He's not a real doctor. Join date: 3 Oct 2005 Posts: 113	Permutation city 12-06-2005 06:44 Can I wholeheartedly agree regarding Permutation City. I use it in my teaching, and it is an excellent intro to the ethical issues. _____________________ Performance Artist and educator "Thinking outside the Prim"
Obic Malaprop Registered User Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 122	12-06-2005 14:24 it would depend on whether i would need a pose ball or anim to do any socializing....

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