Second Life Forums Archive - Real-life usage of SecondLife???

Azelda Garcia

Join date: 3 Nov 2003

Posts: 819

11-17-2005 02:25

Open-ended discussion:

What would it take to make it possible to use SecondLife in real-life?

Obvious example of real-life usage of SecondLife:

- shopping malls, where you pay in L$, and receive the goods, could be a pair of sneakers, or a dress, by mail

Less obvious example:

- systems monitoring: map of the world, or a building, in 3D within SecondLife, with each facility marked by a green sphere. When something goes wrong at that facility, the facility turns red.

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

11-17-2005 02:26

Check out RL work in SL.

Big usage right now is education / simulation type projects.

Pretty much what I predicted

Azelda Garcia

Join date: 3 Nov 2003

Posts: 819

11-17-2005 02:42

Well, what would be needed to extend SecondLife further?

Like, thinking of the jobs one does in RL, many of them are heavily based on some combination of communications and computers. What would it take to be able to do these jobs from within SecondLife???

Azelda

Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

11-17-2005 02:46

reliability, data backup, private ownership of servers, increased security, an increase of technology for more people to be able to use SL ...

... but we're off to a good start

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Katt Kongo

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Join date: 9 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,020

11-17-2005 03:58

From: Azelda Garcia

Like, thinking of the jobs one does in RL, many of them are heavily based on some combination of communications and computers.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

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11-17-2005 04:01

Data backup is the #1 thing that is required. It's just surreal it isn't available.

More reliability, yes, always.

A better development / release process as well.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

11-17-2005 04:04

Improved chat system, improved group system, more control for land owner use, and voice.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

11-17-2005 04:06

OH man not voice, I have enough voices in my head already..

Keiji Talamasca

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Join date: 7 Oct 2005

Posts: 54

11-17-2005 08:02

I'm a massage therapist and I thought of opening a shop...but then I didn't think anyone would pay for that in a game lol. who knows though never hurts to try a new Rl thing in Sl and see where it takes you.

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DNA Prototype

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Join date: 8 Aug 2004

Posts: 179

11-17-2005 08:09

www.futureprototype.com

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Kim Anubis

The Magician

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 921

11-17-2005 08:40

From: blaze Spinnaker

OH man not voice, I have enough voices in my head already..

Okay, that was damn funny.

Anyway, there are a *lot* of RL projects going on in SL. Education and simulations, yup, that's where it's at lately.

At this point, doing RL projects in SL is considered cutting edge and experimental, and that tends to limit what sort of organizations are willing to try it out. Every org with which I've worked has some really grand plans (both big and simply amazing), but they usually start with smaller test projects first. A lot of folks are doing test projects as examples to help to secure grants to fund bigger plans. I'm looking forward to when we're mainstream . . .

*wanders off fantasizing about backups*

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Fizik Baskerville

spacethinkdream.com

Join date: 11 Dec 2003

Posts: 107

11-17-2005 09:07

We have been using SL as a 'Design Toolkit' for coming up to two years now. In that time we have used SL for creating a '3D canvas' and 'diarama' that allows us to add depth and create a different perspective for our design ideas.

This has included everything from designing packaging, walkaround advertising, testing concepts and ideas, early product design development. We even tested Marvin the Paranoid Android for the feature film The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. It was also used for early work in the upcoming Chronicles of Narnia.

We even have a client now who insists on logging into SL (our private off the grid area) to see his designs in our predefined areas. Photoshop comps just doesn't cut it for him anymore!

Clients that we have used SL for range from Adidas, Disney, Vodafone, EMI... plus a lot more.

SL is not a crisp-cutting edge development platform for 3D graphics, it does though give us a 'quick and dirty' look at the work in progress: Its the equivalent of 'scamping', but in a cartisian space.

Our entire design department regular use SL now as a 'design construction set', we don't differentiate it from Photoshop, Illustrator etc.

If they ever get the videos streaming from the SLCC, we showed a lot of examples of the work we've used in SL.

In real terms, its saved us USD10,000's of savings in expensive out-of-house 3D work.

www.riversrunred.com

In the new year, we are bringing in a major communication and media brand into SL. This will be a first step in the direction of commercial viable projects that go beyond 'testing' and 'concept' (from a SL community team rather than from LL).

Fizik.

**please note, avalon. is another project and is not related to our commercial work**

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Kei Mars

z-list celebrity

Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 228

11-17-2005 09:48

Show off!

I've seen Fizik's company's work. It's beautiful and clever. My company uses SL for similar design prototyping purposes, but we've done more mundane stuff like motor vehicle livery and storefront signage and the like.

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Blueman Steele

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Join date: 28 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,038

tangent topic

11-17-2005 09:55

slightly off topic.

I wish you could temporarily let someone else control your attachments os that we could have hair salons!

River Dusk

Registered User

Join date: 29 Sep 2004

Posts: 34

Kei Mars...

11-17-2005 10:02

...is clever and super cool

Real-life usage of SecondLife???
Azelda Garcia Azelda Garcia Join date: 3 Nov 2003 Posts: 819	11-17-2005 02:25 Open-ended discussion: What would it take to make it possible to use SecondLife in real-life? Obvious example of real-life usage of SecondLife: - shopping malls, where you pay in L$, and receive the goods, could be a pair of sneakers, or a dress, by mail Less obvious example: - systems monitoring: map of the world, or a building, in 3D within SecondLife, with each facility marked by a green sphere. When something goes wrong at that facility, the facility turns red.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	11-17-2005 02:26 Check out RL work in SL. Big usage right now is education / simulation type projects. Pretty much what I predicted
Azelda Garcia Azelda Garcia Join date: 3 Nov 2003 Posts: 819	11-17-2005 02:42 Well, what would be needed to extend SecondLife further? Like, thinking of the jobs one does in RL, many of them are heavily based on some combination of communications and computers. What would it take to be able to do these jobs from within SecondLife??? Azelda
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	11-17-2005 02:46 reliability, data backup, private ownership of servers, increased security, an increase of technology for more people to be able to use SL ... ... but we're off to a good start _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
Katt Kongo M2 Publisher Join date: 9 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,020	11-17-2005 03:58 From: Azelda Garcia Like, thinking of the jobs one does in RL, many of them are heavily based on some combination of communications and computers. www.metaversemessenger.com _____________________ The Metaverse Messenger A real newspaper for a virtual world. Now with over 63,000 readers! http://www.metaversemessenger.com
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	11-17-2005 04:01 Data backup is the #1 thing that is required. It's just surreal it isn't available. More reliability, yes, always. A better development / release process as well.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	11-17-2005 04:04 Improved chat system, improved group system, more control for land owner use, and voice. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	11-17-2005 04:06 OH man not voice, I have enough voices in my head already..
Keiji Talamasca Registered abUser Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 54	11-17-2005 08:02 I'm a massage therapist and I thought of opening a shop...but then I didn't think anyone would pay for that in a game lol. who knows though never hurts to try a new Rl thing in Sl and see where it takes you. _____________________ Keiji Talamasca / Takashi Resistance Entrepreneur
DNA Prototype Mad Scientist Join date: 8 Aug 2004 Posts: 179	11-17-2005 08:09 www.futureprototype.com _____________________ DNA DEMENTED CIRCUITRY LIGHTING AND DJ SUPPY SL's finest speakers, DJ gear, lasers, killer club lighting & effects.
Kim Anubis The Magician Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 921	11-17-2005 08:40 From: blaze Spinnaker OH man not voice, I have enough voices in my head already.. Okay, that was damn funny. Anyway, there are a lot of RL projects going on in SL. Education and simulations, yup, that's where it's at lately. At this point, doing RL projects in SL is considered cutting edge and experimental, and that tends to limit what sort of organizations are willing to try it out. Every org with which I've worked has some really grand plans (both big and simply amazing), but they usually start with smaller test projects first. A lot of folks are doing test projects as examples to help to secure grants to fund bigger plans. I'm looking forward to when we're mainstream . . . wanders off fantasizing about backups _____________________ http://www.TheMagicians.us
Fizik Baskerville spacethinkdream.com Join date: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 107	11-17-2005 09:07 We have been using SL as a 'Design Toolkit' for coming up to two years now. In that time we have used SL for creating a '3D canvas' and 'diarama' that allows us to add depth and create a different perspective for our design ideas. This has included everything from designing packaging, walkaround advertising, testing concepts and ideas, early product design development. We even tested Marvin the Paranoid Android for the feature film The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. It was also used for early work in the upcoming Chronicles of Narnia. We even have a client now who insists on logging into SL (our private off the grid area) to see his designs in our predefined areas. Photoshop comps just doesn't cut it for him anymore! Clients that we have used SL for range from Adidas, Disney, Vodafone, EMI... plus a lot more. SL is not a crisp-cutting edge development platform for 3D graphics, it does though give us a 'quick and dirty' look at the work in progress: Its the equivalent of 'scamping', but in a cartisian space. Our entire design department regular use SL now as a 'design construction set', we don't differentiate it from Photoshop, Illustrator etc. If they ever get the videos streaming from the SLCC, we showed a lot of examples of the work we've used in SL. In real terms, its saved us USD10,000's of savings in expensive out-of-house 3D work. www.riversrunred.com In the new year, we are bringing in a major communication and media brand into SL. This will be a first step in the direction of commercial viable projects that go beyond 'testing' and 'concept' (from a SL community team rather than from LL). Fizik. please note, avalon. is another project and is not related to our commercial work _____________________ www.spacethinkdream.com
Kei Mars z-list celebrity Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 228	11-17-2005 09:48 Show off! I've seen Fizik's company's work. It's beautiful and clever. My company uses SL for similar design prototyping purposes, but we've done more mundane stuff like motor vehicle livery and storefront signage and the like. _____________________ :: Mars Japanese Gardens, Albion (99,131) ============================ :: the draGnet v4.0 the musings of a transgendered z-list celebrity
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	tangent topic 11-17-2005 09:55 slightly off topic. I wish you could temporarily let someone else control your attachments os that we could have hair salons!
River Dusk Registered User Join date: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 34	Kei Mars... 11-17-2005 10:02 ...is clever and super cool

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