Albion DeVaux
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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08-20-2006 07:52
Some idiot came round to my land a few minutes ago and, after chatting briefly, began shooting me and pushing me so I had to teleport back home twice. I banned him eventually but it was hard work while being knocked all over the place! I've filed an AR. Having looked in hs profile I've noticed that he belongs to three groups. Is it worth informing leaders of groups of this kind of behaviour? I have a chat log of him basically admitting that he's shooting me. Would leaders of groups be interested in knowing this?
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Angel Fluffy
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Join date: 3 Mar 2006
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08-20-2006 08:29
Most leaders of normal groups would, yes. Leaders of military-style groups would be especially interested. The thing to watch out for is that there are a fair number of groups which are actually owned by griefers, and which are used for communication between griefers. Any contact you make with the leaders of these groups is most likely to result in them getting the whole group together to "raid" your property.
I would suggest that before contacting any group owner, you look into all the senior members of the group (pre-1.12, this means the group officers). Check if they have a serious investment in SL, if they have pay info on file, if they own or run businesses, if they seem to have a wide circle of friends, etc. Most of all, do a search on their name in the forums here and on google, to see what kind of person they are.
Don't be quick to trust group admins - there are some griefers who run griefer groups who will actually contact *you* and ask very sweetly to be unbanned from your land .... despite the fact I've seen logs that show that group admin is a griefer.
Overall : yes, inform the group admins if the group seems to be legit. If you have doubts about how legit the group is, do research. If the group seems rotten, ban the whole group and be *very* skeptical if any group officers (especially the founder) contact you to try to get unbanned.
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Albion DeVaux
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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08-20-2006 10:54
Thanks Angel, the groups he belongs to look quite decent on the face of it. I'll look into them further though. The griefer has only been in SL four days so he's obviously spent time meeting people in between shooting others!
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rain Bradley
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Join date: 29 May 2006
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08-20-2006 11:03
From: Albion DeVaux Some idiot came round to my land a few minutes ago and, after chatting briefly, began shooting me and pushing me so I had to teleport back home twice. I banned him eventually but it was hard work while being knocked all over the place! I've filed an AR. Having looked in hs profile I've noticed that he belongs to three groups. Is it worth informing leaders of groups of this kind of behaviour? I have a chat log of him basically admitting that he's shooting me. Would leaders of groups be interested in knowing this?
Albion thats what I did and he was confronted by the officers in each group i consulted....quietly and calmly even tho i was angry as hell....he apologized to me afterwards and to the other sims he crashed using my name.....some will listen some will laugh...I found nice people and settled it .. rain
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Stephanie Abernathy
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Join date: 8 May 2006
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08-21-2006 10:44
From: Albion DeVaux Would leaders of groups be interested in knowing this?
Albion Albion, also be aware that many griefers are members of legitimate groups to throw people off. Group membership is no reliable indicator of someone being a griefer or not being a griefer. Groups such as clubs, you can get those just by walking in the club during an event. The host will either offer you membership or ask if you want it. Rarely do the clubs check their membership after the griefer has struck. Stores have groups publicly avail and free to join. Many clubs & stores will actually ignore you the victim, on the basis that so long as the griefer has done nothing to them, they don't care what he/she does elsewhere. I saw this first hand, working as a hostess at 2 different clubs. We were griefed at one club and i present the names to the management of the 2nd club, who told me they didn't care because the griefers had done nothing to them. Some griefers take advantage of this behavior.
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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
Join date: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 2,235
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08-21-2006 10:50
From: Albion DeVaux Some idiot came round to my land a few minutes ago and, after chatting briefly, began shooting me and pushing me so I had to teleport back home twice. I banned him eventually but it was hard work while being knocked all over the place! I've filed an AR. Having looked in hs profile I've noticed that he belongs to three groups. Is it worth informing leaders of groups of this kind of behaviour? I have a chat log of him basically admitting that he's shooting me. Would leaders of groups be interested in knowing this?
Albion Be aware that sharing that chat log is a violation of the TOS and could end up getting you banned. Just thought you should know.
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Lost Newcomb
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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08-21-2006 11:02
From: Vares Solvang Be aware that sharing that chat log is a violation of the TOS and could end up getting you banned.
Just thought you should know. He can share the log on any external site. I'm sure he's well aware of that!  That is not against the ToS!
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