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Aurael Neurocam
Will script for food
Join date: 25 Oct 2005
Posts: 267
11-24-2005 00:29
I was exploring the area around my home tonight and clicking away, and some of those ugly blue signs (you know the ones) lead me near a huge build... it appeared to be a Star Wars fan build.

I thought, Hmm. This looks interesting. I'll explore.

Suddenly, without warning, I was teleported home. I had a script dialog telling me that "yada yada Security Script yada yada"

What is the policy regarding being tp'd home without any warning?

Is this what they call a turret?

Are some people really so paranoid that they don't want anybody flying over their land? Why do they build these huge, extravagant constructions if they don't want anybody looking at them?

I'm not trying to cause trouble; I was just interested in the build. However, it did seem a bit rude to find myself so unceremoniously booted without so much as a "How do ya do?"
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
11-24-2005 02:00
I have two pieces of land, one of which is set to home. The other one is over 700m from the nearest telehub.

One day I was going there, and did the long flight from the telehub, when I suddenly found myself at my home location again. I tried again, and the same thing happened. Of course, I was slow on the uptake; I assumed there was something wrong with the tp system, and tried again. At least twice more.

After 20 minutes of struggling to get to my land the light dawned, and I suddenly realised I was being returned by my neighbour's security device.

Security devices are unsociable, and ones that return you home are anti-social.

PS: In case anybody knows the parties concerned, let me say that I IMd the neighbour, who was very apologetic, and changed the security to bounce rather than return.
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Chosen Few
Alpha Channel Slave
Join date: 16 Jan 2004
Posts: 7,496
11-24-2005 02:29
Having recently purchased a security system myself and thereby learning what a pain they can be to properly install, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of systems set to TP everyone home are probably not set that way on purpose. Installing a system and setting it up properly is a bit labor intensive. If someone stops in the middle, thinking "I'll finish later", it could easily be left set to an unsociable level. I'm sure there are those who do it on purpose, but I really don't think they're the majority.

My system is set to teleport certain individuals home, but only if they've demonstrated reason to be on the list (i.e. griefing). It took me a while to get it set up properly. It's entirely possible that some innocent people may have been negatively affected by my learning curve. If that's the case, then anyone who may have had that experience, please accept my apology.

Oh, while we're on the subject, you did say Star WARS fan build, not Star TREK fan build, right? My place looks like this . That wasn't it, was it? If so, all I can say is it must have been a glitch in the system, since as I said, my security is only for protection against a handfull of "worthy" individuals. The general public is more than welcome at all times.
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Michi Lumin
Sharp and Pointy
Join date: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,793
11-24-2005 05:25
We have one but it's in no way automatic. This is why I wasn't really for getting rid of that function alltogether - automatic gohome scripts I dont think are really good form. Though with ours, you have to do something assenine and one of us has to actually type in a command to send someone home.

We need -something- on the mainland because ban doesn't do anything there.

Other solutions have been "Abuse report and wait for a Linden to come."

... sorry, don't think so.
Hunter Stern
Web Weaver
Join date: 7 Oct 2004
Posts: 377
11-24-2005 05:44
The Policy on being TP'd home without warning can depend, but in most cases where in your case the security device was to protect the inside of a build and you decided to explore inside of said buid, no they don't have to give you warning, you werent enroute to a location other than the build.

I had a security device set up in a small peice of land inside a tower that had floors. i specifically did not want ppl going inside while I was away and apparently I can have my wish so long as people could at least fly OVER the protected build (i.e Flight path), and the security device could extend upto atleast 300 meters above the ground.
Michi Lumin
Sharp and Pointy
Join date: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,793
11-24-2005 05:47
actually there have been some questions on this. That's why our security system now -requires- that one of us actually type "gohome Avatar Name" in the chat channel (not on a hidden /1 channel, etc).

Reason being is, it seems it -may- be a TOS violation to not give prior warning. With the method we use, there's no question as to _who_ sent you home, and that you were indeed sent home as a reaction to prior jackassery.
Aurael Neurocam
Will script for food
Join date: 25 Oct 2005
Posts: 267
11-24-2005 07:38
I got a response from the owner.... it said something to the effect of "you shouldn't fly more than 300M above our land".

I'm going to post on the Linden Hotline about it. Personally, I'm beginning to like the "don't render" proposition more and more: You don't exist for people on private land, and they don't exist for you: no chat, no objects, no avatars whie they're there.

Thanks, guys. :-)
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
11-24-2005 08:12
From: Aurael Neurocam
I got a response from the owner.... it said something to the effect of "you shouldn't fly more than 300M above our land".

I'm going to post on the Linden Hotline about it. Personally, I'm beginning to like the "don't render" proposition more and more: You don't exist for people on private land, and they don't exist for you: no chat, no objects, no avatars whie they're there.

Thanks, guys. :-)


Your neighbor's response is utter tripe. I note answers from people using these overly aggressive security scripts typically are. I think they either can't be arsed to figure out how to set up a proper warning and eject (TPing home is serious overkill) or they're simply to flipping stupid. Either way, an answer attempting to place any blame on you (ie, you shouldn't fly over a certain height over their property - as if!) is nothing more than an attempt to deflect blame from themselves, where the blame belongs.

I'd file an abuse report, and call it "blocking the way". Which it is. Which is against the TOS. Every time you get teleported, file another AR. Don't get confrontational with your neighbor, just keep filing the ARs quietly. Has worked for me every time - but it takes time.
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Travis Lambert
White dog, red collar
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,819
11-24-2005 09:08
From: Jillian Callahan
Your neighbor's response is utter tripe. I note answers from people using these overly aggressive security scripts typically are. I think they either can't be arsed to figure out how to set up a proper warning and eject (TPing home is serious overkill) or they're simply to flipping stupid. Either way, an answer attempting to place any blame on you (ie, you shouldn't fly over a certain height over their property - as if!) is nothing more than an attempt to deflect blame from themselves, where the blame belongs.

I'd file an abuse report, and call it "blocking the way". Which it is. Which is against the TOS. Every time you get teleported, file another AR. Don't get confrontational with your neighbor, just keep filing the ARs quietly. Has worked for me every time - but it takes time.


Agreed. Using llTeleportAgentHome for privacy reasons is totally irresponsible, excessive, and unneccesary. If they want their privacy, they could at least use llEjectFromLand - not send you all the way home.

Teleporting home should only be used with *griefers* - and then, only on a manual-add basis.

Sorry to be a broken record - but vote for prop 244 - hopefully it'll make stuff like this unneccesary.
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Mina Welesa
Semi-retired
Join date: 19 Dec 2004
Posts: 228
11-24-2005 15:34
I can sympathize. I almost hate to go exploring any more. I cannot count the number of times I've flown into an area only to be bounced without warning, or have some security script tell me I have so many seconds to leave the area.

I could understand it if you land on someone's property, or even hover over it for a while, but why is a security script needed to harrass someone who is simply flying over?

The SL landscape is distinctly unfriendly at times, thanks to these scripts.