Second Life Forums Archive - Do You Have Local Lighting Turned On In Prefs?

Lord Wishbringer

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Join date: 3 Dec 2004

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11-26-2005 07:53

Hey guys.I'm after some kind of market research if you would take two seconds to answer. I'm building a bunch of objects from full pre fab homes, to the furniture to decorate them.

I have local lighting switched off in my preferences, it seems to lag me out something chronic. Anyways,most the items i build have 'Full Bright' switched on so they look just as nice at night as during the day. Is this a bad thing?

Thanks to all that post. It will help me make items people use rather than keep in thier pocket.

-LW

ZsuZsanna Raven

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Join date: 19 Dec 2004

Posts: 2,361

11-26-2005 07:56

I have never used local lighting because I have been told by several people that it is very laggy and well, I really don't need any of that hehe.\

I do however love the full bright feature and have had no issues from that. The first time I turned full bright on something I was amazed and I ran around to everything at my homes and turned it on everything I possibly could

I love this feature!

P.S. You may want to re-word your poll question because it kinda doesn't make sense.
Local lighting on or off
yes or no

not sure what question we are answering hehe

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Lord Wishbringer

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Join date: 3 Dec 2004

Posts: 209

11-26-2005 08:01

ROFL! You're right, it doesn't make sense. I couldn't figure out how to change the poll wording though,any ideas? lol Thanks for pointing that out!

-LW

Richie Waves

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11-26-2005 08:03

LOL! I just got the gist of the question somehow.. answer no.. though I may turn it on from time to time for snaps..

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Dyne Talamasca

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Join date: 9 Oct 2005

Posts: 436

11-26-2005 08:10

Full bright in general is not a bad thing, but if overused, it can easily make everything horribly ugly.

If you turn full bright on for everything there will be no shading at all. Not even the subtle shading that you get during the daytime. It looks "just as good at night" because it never really looks very good at all.

I have higher standards than your average user, however.

Outside of SL, I deal with both traditional and digital painting, and lighting seems to be a major component of my style. I've also done extensive work with 3d graphics and FPS mapping.

For all these reasons, I usually run with Local Lighting turned on.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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11-26-2005 08:11

I think the forum moderator may be able to delete the post, enabling you to submit a post with proper wording in the poll, or maybe the moderator can change the poll wording to properly reflect your intent upon being asked.

I don't have local lighting turned on very often, it slows things down and lord knows they are slow enough as it is, and there are so many examples of bad use of the local lighting they outweigh the good uses.

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ZsuZsanna Raven

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11-26-2005 08:12

From: Lord Wishbringer

ROFL! You're right, it doesn't make sense. I couldn't figure out how to change the poll wording though,any ideas? lol Thanks for pointing that out!

-LW

Hmm I'm not real sure. I don't think I've ever made a poll lol

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Lord Wishbringer

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Join date: 3 Dec 2004

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11-26-2005 08:26

Hopefully people will realise what i meant. For those that don't:

Local Lighting On Or Off?

Yes = ON

No = OFF

Sorry for my poor grammar.

Thanks for the replies so far guys,seems a possible solution would be for me to offer two versions of each produce i build. One with Full Bright ON,another with it switched OFF(unless specifically wanting it to be a light emmiting object).

-LW

Chip Midnight

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Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

11-26-2005 09:24

I much prefer to have it on because it really makes the world look better, but I've recently started keeping it off because I get much better framerate without it.

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Picabo Hedges

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Join date: 12 Nov 2004

Posts: 262

11-26-2005 09:49

Prior to 1.7 I had it on all the time and had fps > 21 on a routine basis.

Post 1.7, same machine no other preference changes, I get sub-11 FPS rates in the same areas with local lighting on.

Consequently, I rarely have local lighting on any more - especially since many of those sub-11 FPS rates are actually sub-5 or even sub-2. Even dropping my draw distance to 64 doesn't seem to have a noticeable improvement usually.

Too bad - I loved local lighting before.

Laukosargas Svarog

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11-26-2005 09:58

From: Dyne Talamasca

Full bright in general is not a bad thing, but if overused, it can easily make everything horribly ugly.

If you turn full bright on for everything there will be no shading at all. Not even the subtle shading that you get during the daytime. It looks "just as good at night" because it never really looks very good at all.

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That quote is the truth and good advice.

Fullbright is cool and it has it's places but to use it on every surface would make your stuff look ridiculous. If you want your stuff to look lit and look cool, you could make textures with burnt in lighting effects.

Do You Have Local Lighting Turned On In Prefs?
Lord Wishbringer Registered User Join date: 3 Dec 2004 Posts: 209	11-26-2005 07:53 Hey guys.I'm after some kind of market research if you would take two seconds to answer. I'm building a bunch of objects from full pre fab homes, to the furniture to decorate them. I have local lighting switched off in my preferences, it seems to lag me out something chronic. Anyways,most the items i build have 'Full Bright' switched on so they look just as nice at night as during the day. Is this a bad thing? Thanks to all that post. It will help me make items people use rather than keep in thier pocket. -LW
ZsuZsanna Raven ~:+: Supah Kitteh :+:~ Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,361	11-26-2005 07:56 I have never used local lighting because I have been told by several people that it is very laggy and well, I really don't need any of that hehe.\ I do however love the full bright feature and have had no issues from that. The first time I turned full bright on something I was amazed and I ran around to everything at my homes and turned it on everything I possibly could I love this feature! P.S. You may want to re-word your poll question because it kinda doesn't make sense. Local lighting on or off yes or no not sure what question we are answering hehe _____________________ ~Mewz!~
Lord Wishbringer Registered User Join date: 3 Dec 2004 Posts: 209	11-26-2005 08:01 ROFL! You're right, it doesn't make sense. I couldn't figure out how to change the poll wording though,any ideas? lol Thanks for pointing that out! -LW
Richie Waves Predictable Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,424	11-26-2005 08:03 LOL! I just got the gist of the question somehow.. answer no.. though I may turn it on from time to time for snaps.. _____________________ no u!
Dyne Talamasca Noneuclidean Love Polygon Join date: 9 Oct 2005 Posts: 436	11-26-2005 08:10 Full bright in general is not a bad thing, but if overused, it can easily make everything horribly ugly. If you turn full bright on for everything there will be no shading at all. Not even the subtle shading that you get during the daytime. It looks "just as good at night" because it never really looks very good at all. I have higher standards than your average user, however. Outside of SL, I deal with both traditional and digital painting, and lighting seems to be a major component of my style. I've also done extensive work with 3d graphics and FPS mapping. For all these reasons, I usually run with Local Lighting turned on. _____________________ Dyne Talamasca - I hate the word "bling". Miscellany on MySLShop.com, SLB, and SLEx Plonk
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	11-26-2005 08:11 I think the forum moderator may be able to delete the post, enabling you to submit a post with proper wording in the poll, or maybe the moderator can change the poll wording to properly reflect your intent upon being asked. I don't have local lighting turned on very often, it slows things down and lord knows they are slow enough as it is, and there are so many examples of bad use of the local lighting they outweigh the good uses. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
ZsuZsanna Raven ~:+: Supah Kitteh :+:~ Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,361	11-26-2005 08:12 From: Lord Wishbringer ROFL! You're right, it doesn't make sense. I couldn't figure out how to change the poll wording though,any ideas? lol Thanks for pointing that out! -LW Hmm I'm not real sure. I don't think I've ever made a poll lol _____________________ ~Mewz!~
Lord Wishbringer Registered User Join date: 3 Dec 2004 Posts: 209	11-26-2005 08:26 Hopefully people will realise what i meant. For those that don't: Local Lighting On Or Off? Yes = ON No = OFF Sorry for my poor grammar. Thanks for the replies so far guys,seems a possible solution would be for me to offer two versions of each produce i build. One with Full Bright ON,another with it switched OFF(unless specifically wanting it to be a light emmiting object). -LW
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	11-26-2005 09:24 I much prefer to have it on because it really makes the world look better, but I've recently started keeping it off because I get much better framerate without it. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Picabo Hedges Second Life Resident Join date: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 262	11-26-2005 09:49 Prior to 1.7 I had it on all the time and had fps > 21 on a routine basis. Post 1.7, same machine no other preference changes, I get sub-11 FPS rates in the same areas with local lighting on. Consequently, I rarely have local lighting on any more - especially since many of those sub-11 FPS rates are actually sub-5 or even sub-2. Even dropping my draw distance to 64 doesn't seem to have a noticeable improvement usually. Too bad - I loved local lighting before.
Laukosargas Svarog Angel ? Join date: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,304	11-26-2005 09:58 From: Dyne Talamasca Full bright in general is not a bad thing, but if overused, it can easily make everything horribly ugly. If you turn full bright on for everything there will be no shading at all. Not even the subtle shading that you get during the daytime. It looks "just as good at night" because it never really looks very good at all. . That quote is the truth and good advice. Fullbright is cool and it has it's places but to use it on every surface would make your stuff look ridiculous. If you want your stuff to look lit and look cool, you could make textures with burnt in lighting effects.

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