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Pathfinder Linden

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04-03-2006 09:21

Greetings,

There's a new experimental 2-d virtual world called "Hive7" that just came online last week:

http://gigaom.com/2006/03/29/hive-7-an-ajaxian-virtual-world/

You can create your own rooms and avatar using customized 2-d images. So I went ahead and created the Ahern Welcome Area!

http://www.hive7.com/Pathfinder%20Linden/AhernWA

I know many Residents like to stay "in touch" with Second Life friends during the workday from offices where it may be problematic trying to run the Second Life client. Often web-based forums and IRC rooms serve as an additional way for Residents to keep in touch.

I'm wondering if folks might find Hive7 a fun supplement to SL when it is not possible to actually be in-world. It runs in a web browser with no required plugins (all javascript), and it is possible to recreate simple "rooms" by using background snapshots from places in SL (like I did with the Ahern WA). You can even create a Hive7 avatar that looks like a 2-d version your Second Life avatar.

Has anyone here already tried it out? Created any SL-themed rooms in Hive7?

I'll be in the Hive7 Ahern WA today during my lunchtime (noon-1pm, SL-time) if anyone would like to play around with it.

-Pathfinder

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04-03-2006 09:24

Supplement hell I got a replacement woo hoo! (kidding hehe)

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04-03-2006 09:30

Very nice! I get awesome FPS in here... even with all the graphics options turned on! This is definately cutting edge in hardware compatibility!

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Csven Concord

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04-03-2006 10:09

Gave me a chance to test whether the interactive map on the SL homepage functioned in a "shared" mode. Unfortunately, like embedded links, it doesn't appear to work. So it's still a "pseudo" shared browser in the Hive7 Room. Bummer that.

Argent Stonecutter

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04-03-2006 10:22

Pretty cute. And google images got me a decent avatar.

FlipperPA Peregrine

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04-03-2006 10:52

From: Argent Stonecutter

Pretty cute. And google images got me a decent avatar.

Whoa! Did you notice the Havok 4 implementation?

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Argent Stonecutter

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04-03-2006 12:06

From: FlipperPA Peregrine

Whoa! Did you notice the Havok 4 implementation?

Eep Quirk oughta pop over and have a look at their scripting language. It's object-oriented, and you can pass a list or an integer to a function.

People are down on Javascript, but it's really a nice language. Miles ahead of Java, C++, C#, or VBscript. Not real-time, of course... there's no way you could support 10,000 active javascript scripts on a single server.

Anna Bobbysocks

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04-03-2006 12:33

So, if it gets popular, are you going to GOM them too?

Argent Stonecutter

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04-03-2006 12:45

How can they GOM something that's not a business in SL to begin with?

Personally, I just want to be able to make a jabber connection to SL's instant messages. How about that... set up a Jabber server and let us use [email]firstname.lastname@jabber.secondlife.com[/email] as a JID?

Anna Bobbysocks

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04-03-2006 13:09

GOM wasn't really a business inside SL.

Neither, for that matter, was snapzilla.

Trust me, this is what LL does. They wait for someone else to prove it out as popular and then they *GOM* you.

They know full well what they're doing. Feature missing from SL? Well, that's becaues nobody has proved it out yet.

Roam is popular? ooh! ooh! ooh! Time for P2P!

If Hive becomes popular, then they'll just low ball them with some sad sack offer and then build their own version of a 2d interface.

AJ DaSilva

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04-03-2006 13:17

From: Anna Bobbysocks

GOM wasn't really a business inside SL.

Neither, for that matter, was snapzilla.

Trust me, this is what LL does. They wait for someone else to prove it out as popular and then they *GOM* you.

They know full well what they're doing. Feature missing from SL? Well, that's becaues nobody has proved it out yet.

Roam is popular? ooh! ooh! ooh! Time for P2P!

If Hive becomes popular, then they'll just low ball them with some sad sack offer and then build their own version of a 2d interface.

*yawn*

Anyway, this Hive7 thing's kinda cool. A bit like a 2D SL really. Can't think of any examples myself, but it looks like it could have some potential for some interesting things. I really like the fact that the whole thing's AJAX and doesn't need any plugins.

Persephone Milk

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04-03-2006 13:29

Interesting and fun. I even saw a couple of friends. Thanks for letting us know about this.

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Argent Stonecutter

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04-03-2006 13:43

From: Anna Bobbysocks

GOM wasn't really a business inside SL.

OK "How can you GOM something that has absolutely nothing to do with SL".

This is like complaining that SL is GOMing "Bryce 2" or "iTunes".

SuezanneC Baskerville

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04-03-2006 13:48

Wouldn't run on the latest Opera. Or the latest Firefox. Or Internet Explorer.

Odd.

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04-03-2006 22:04

Neat idea, but the Javascript seems to freeze up Maxthon on closing. Also theres like four "Shared Browsers" that take up most of the screen and seem impossible to close?

It's neat to see someone do a virtual world with AJAX, the interface is nice too. Like I said my only real problem is the Javascript hanging.

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04-03-2006 22:20

come back in oz ill keep you company

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Anna Bobbysocks

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04-04-2006 00:14

A low rez interface to SL is a huge possiblity, and Hive is a great place to prototype it and check out whether or not it is feasible.

Improving the useability of SecondLife is #1 on the list of things to do .. how do you think they're going to get those millions of people into SL .. send them all free video cards?

Wise up, folks!

If I were those Hive dudes, I'd be writing a lot of patents as of right now.

CrystalShard Foo

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04-04-2006 10:06

Patents kill people.

And kitties.

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04-04-2006 13:48

From: CrystalShard Foo

Patents kill people.

And kitties.

Patents make baby Jebus cry.

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04-04-2006 16:23

There's SL iRC? What is the server addy?

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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05-23-2006 19:40

Perhaps a few people might want to try Hive again during the downtime for the next version.

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Siggy Romulus

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05-23-2006 19:50

Kinda scratching my head as to how this moderation thing works...

A thread refering something in SL with a link to info gets moved to resident run websites - a thread doing the exact same thing stays.

Someone took their retarded pills this morning.

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Pathfinder Linden

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05-23-2006 20:38

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Perhaps a few people might want to try Hive again during the downtime for the next version.

Sounds like a plan. I'll be hanging out in Hive7 and will see if anyone shows up.

This will be a nice way to pass the time and keep in touch while we wait for the grid to open

-Pathfinder

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05-23-2006 21:25

With all due respect, recruiting people to sign up on patch day is not the best plan in the book.

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Ahern WA recreated in Hive7
Pathfinder Linden Administrator Join date: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 507	04-03-2006 09:21 Greetings, There's a new experimental 2-d virtual world called "Hive7" that just came online last week: http://gigaom.com/2006/03/29/hive-7-an-ajaxian-virtual-world/ You can create your own rooms and avatar using customized 2-d images. So I went ahead and created the Ahern Welcome Area! http://www.hive7.com/Pathfinder%20Linden/AhernWA I know many Residents like to stay "in touch" with Second Life friends during the workday from offices where it may be problematic trying to run the Second Life client. Often web-based forums and IRC rooms serve as an additional way for Residents to keep in touch. I'm wondering if folks might find Hive7 a fun supplement to SL when it is not possible to actually be in-world. It runs in a web browser with no required plugins (all javascript), and it is possible to recreate simple "rooms" by using background snapshots from places in SL (like I did with the Ahern WA). You can even create a Hive7 avatar that looks like a 2-d version your Second Life avatar. Has anyone here already tried it out? Created any SL-themed rooms in Hive7? I'll be in the Hive7 Ahern WA today during my lunchtime (noon-1pm, SL-time) if anyone would like to play around with it. -Pathfinder _____________________
Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826	04-03-2006 09:24 Supplement hell I got a replacement woo hoo! (kidding hehe) _____________________
Psyra Extraordinaire Corra Nacunda Chieftain Join date: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,533	04-03-2006 09:30 Very nice! I get awesome FPS in here... even with all the graphics options turned on! This is definately cutting edge in hardware compatibility! _____________________ E-Mail Psyra at psyralbakor_at_yahoo_dot_com, Visit my Webpage at www.psyra.ca Visit me in-world at the Avaria sims, in Grendel's Children! ^^
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	04-03-2006 10:09 Gave me a chance to test whether the interactive map on the SL homepage functioned in a "shared" mode. Unfortunately, like embedded links, it doesn't appear to work. So it's still a "pseudo" shared browser in the Hive7 Room. Bummer that.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	04-03-2006 10:22 Pretty cute. And google images got me a decent avatar.
FlipperPA Peregrine Magically Delicious! Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,703	04-03-2006 10:52 From: Argent Stonecutter Pretty cute. And google images got me a decent avatar. Whoa! Did you notice the Havok 4 implementation? Regards, -Flip _____________________ Peregrine Salon: www.PeregrineSalon.com - my consulting company Second Blogger: www.SecondBlogger.com - free, fully integrated Second Life blogging for all avatars!
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	04-03-2006 12:06 From: FlipperPA Peregrine Whoa! Did you notice the Havok 4 implementation? Eep Quirk oughta pop over and have a look at their scripting language. It's object-oriented, and you can pass a list or an integer to a function. People are down on Javascript, but it's really a nice language. Miles ahead of Java, C++, C#, or VBscript. Not real-time, of course... there's no way you could support 10,000 active javascript scripts on a single server.
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	04-03-2006 12:33 So, if it gets popular, are you going to GOM them too?
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	04-03-2006 12:45 How can they GOM something that's not a business in SL to begin with? Personally, I just want to be able to make a jabber connection to SL's instant messages. How about that... set up a Jabber server and let us use [email]firstname.lastname@jabber.secondlife.com[/email] as a JID?
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	04-03-2006 13:09 GOM wasn't really a business inside SL. Neither, for that matter, was snapzilla. Trust me, this is what LL does. They wait for someone else to prove it out as popular and then they GOM you. They know full well what they're doing. Feature missing from SL? Well, that's becaues nobody has proved it out yet. Roam is popular? ooh! ooh! ooh! Time for P2P! If Hive becomes popular, then they'll just low ball them with some sad sack offer and then build their own version of a 2d interface.
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	04-03-2006 13:17 From: Anna Bobbysocks GOM wasn't really a business inside SL. Neither, for that matter, was snapzilla. Trust me, this is what LL does. They wait for someone else to prove it out as popular and then they GOM you. They know full well what they're doing. Feature missing from SL? Well, that's becaues nobody has proved it out yet. Roam is popular? ooh! ooh! ooh! Time for P2P! If Hive becomes popular, then they'll just low ball them with some sad sack offer and then build their own version of a 2d interface. yawn Anyway, this Hive7 thing's kinda cool. A bit like a 2D SL really. Can't think of any examples myself, but it looks like it could have some potential for some interesting things. I really like the fact that the whole thing's AJAX and doesn't need any plugins.
Persephone Milk Very Persenickety! Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 870	04-03-2006 13:29 Interesting and fun. I even saw a couple of friends. Thanks for letting us know about this. _____________________ ~ Persephone Milk ~ Please visit my stores on Persenickety Isle Musical Alchemy - Pianos, harps and other musical intruments. Persenickety! - Ladies Eyewear, Jewelry and Clothing Fashions
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	04-03-2006 13:43 From: Anna Bobbysocks GOM wasn't really a business inside SL. OK "How can you GOM something that has absolutely nothing to do with SL". This is like complaining that SL is GOMing "Bryce 2" or "iTunes".
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-03-2006 13:48 Wouldn't run on the latest Opera. Or the latest Firefox. Or Internet Explorer. Odd. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	04-03-2006 22:04 Neat idea, but the Javascript seems to freeze up Maxthon on closing. Also theres like four "Shared Browsers" that take up most of the screen and seem impossible to close? It's neat to see someone do a virtual world with AJAX, the interface is nice too. Like I said my only real problem is the Javascript hanging. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Madiera Westerburg waiting for apocolypse :D Join date: 6 Apr 2004 Posts: 836	04-03-2006 22:20 come back in oz ill keep you company _____________________ "Unfortunately you cant wipe them out of existence... merely hide the drivel they have to spew"- Kris Ritter From: Neehai Zapata If the lord was handing out bacterial infections for sinning, you'd be at the free clinic all the time. just when I manage to convince myself I'm a superior being, I walk into a door
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	04-04-2006 00:14 A low rez interface to SL is a huge possiblity, and Hive is a great place to prototype it and check out whether or not it is feasible. Improving the useability of SecondLife is #1 on the list of things to do .. how do you think they're going to get those millions of people into SL .. send them all free video cards? Wise up, folks! If I were those Hive dudes, I'd be writing a lot of patents as of right now.
CrystalShard Foo 1+1=10 Join date: 6 Feb 2004 Posts: 682	04-04-2006 10:06 Patents kill people. And kitties.
Newfie Pendragon Crusty and proud of it Join date: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,025	04-04-2006 13:48 From: CrystalShard Foo Patents kill people. And kitties. Patents make baby Jebus cry. - Newfie _____________________
foehn Breed More random than random Join date: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,142	04-04-2006 16:23 There's SL iRC? What is the server addy? _____________________ You have no friends online at this time. "Excellent!" Einstein "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	05-23-2006 19:40 Perhaps a few people might want to try Hive again during the downtime for the next version. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	05-23-2006 19:50 Kinda scratching my head as to how this moderation thing works... A thread refering something in SL with a link to info gets moved to resident run websites - a thread doing the exact same thing stays. Someone took their retarded pills this morning. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Pathfinder Linden Administrator Join date: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 507	05-23-2006 20:38 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Perhaps a few people might want to try Hive again during the downtime for the next version. Sounds like a plan. I'll be hanging out in Hive7 and will see if anyone shows up. This will be a nice way to pass the time and keep in touch while we wait for the grid to open -Pathfinder _____________________
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	05-23-2006 21:25 With all due respect, recruiting people to sign up on patch day is not the best plan in the book. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net

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