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Accounts to access only private island?

azi Shilton
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08-21-2006 22:00
If i were to purchase a private island, can i also create accounts to have access to only this private island and not anywhere else in Second Life? So when these users log in, they are in the island and they can only roam within this island and not anywhere else.

If this is possible, can someone tell me how do I go about restricting the accounts?
Doubledown Tandino
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08-21-2006 22:11
Nope.

Why would you want certain people to not be able to explore all of SL?
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azi Shilton
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08-21-2006 22:17
because i intend to try this out on a group of students. and i'd only want them to access the private island which will be created for educational purposes.
nimrod Yaffle
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08-21-2006 22:19
From: azi Shilton
because i intend to try this out on a group of students. and i'd only want them to access the private island which will be created for educational purposes.

http://secondlife.com/community/education.php

"There are many options for Educators in Second Life. Private Islands provide the ability to create secure "intranet" spaces with restricted membership. Public land allows educators and students to interact with all the Residents of Second Life.* If you are an Educator interested in using Second Life, please contact us at [email]education@lindenlab.com[/email]."

Try emailing them for more info. :D
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08-21-2006 22:20
From: azi Shilton
because i intend to try this out on a group of students. and i'd only want them to access the private island which will be created for educational purposes.


How old are your students?
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Doubledown Tandino
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08-21-2006 22:26
From: azi Shilton
because i intend to try this out on a group of students. and i'd only want them to access the private island which will be created for educational purposes.

Ah, totally makes sense... I didnt think of that.


... but what would prevent a student (after being exposed to SL) then creating an alt and going anywhere?
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azi Shilton
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08-21-2006 22:26
ive emailed education@lindenlabs, pathfinder@lindenlabs, sent website request, SL Live HELP etc. since 2nd Aug but have not received any replies till now :( Anyone knows how else i can get them? How long do they take to reply to emails?

Students are 17-19years old so it's gonna be a problem cos 18years and below, we gotta get an island on the teen grid but as you can see i've also got 19year olds.

If only someone from the Linden Lab Education Dept can respond to me and offer some advice!
onionpencil Musashi
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08-21-2006 22:44
try SL answers forum yet? maybe torley will help.
Isaac Bergson
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08-22-2006 05:11
From: azi Shilton
If i were to purchase a private island, can i also create accounts to have access to only this private island and not anywhere else in Second Life? So when these users log in, they are in the island and they can only roam within this island and not anywhere else.

If this is possible, can someone tell me how do I go about restricting the accounts?


I can't say I'm totally opposed to this idea. Only this kinda goes against the grain of what SL is a little all about. I can honestly say for myself it may just depend on what you are trying to have the students learn. In all honesty I'd really like to know that if it's ok to know? If not here maybe in world or maybe PM me? This is defanitly the first I've seen anyone ask about a somewhat different idea such as this.

Isaac
Parker McTeague
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08-22-2006 05:31
it is possible to hide the mainland from the island. never tried it though, so i don't know if you're "trapped" there or can tp somewhere else.
Isaac Bergson
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08-22-2006 05:35
From: Parker McTeague
it is possible to hide the mainland from the island. never tried it though, so i don't know if you're "trapped" there or can tp somewhere else.


It is possable to hide your island from the main grid and vice versa. But, you can still tp out and if you set it to certain others. They can tp in and also out. Just the island in and of itself is invisable.
azi Shilton
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08-23-2006 02:19
From: Isaac Bergson
I can't say I'm totally opposed to this idea. Only this kinda goes against the grain of what SL is a little all about. I can honestly say for myself it may just depend on what you are trying to have the students learn. In all honesty I'd really like to know that if it's ok to know? If not here maybe in world or maybe PM me? This is defanitly the first I've seen anyone ask about a somewhat different idea such as this.

Isaac


yes my idea seems to run contrary to the the overarching objective of SL in creating a vast digital continent for social exploration and experience. But let me put it this way, I'd like the students to explore the social space between themselves first. i'm not discounting the fact that if they are significantly engaged, they will sign up accounts on their own to explore the rest of SL. but at least for the purpose of this module, i'd want to have some form of control - wouldnt want them to be roaming around SL while an offical lesson's taking place in the private island.
Adriana Caligari
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08-23-2006 02:36
This idea would certainly make sense for any corporations that wanted to invest time and money in SL - possibly extended so that the accounts created are not allowed ANY interaction with the rest of SL ( find, people, etc - sort of a private teen grid )

Make an ( for example ) IBM continent ( built up of 32 or so sims ) and create user accounts that can access that continent and only that continent ( give them the bare essentials of good skins, gadgets, clothes etc etc )

Give out the accounts to customers or prospective customers and employees to go and look at various new things in the IBM pipeline on the IBM continent.

If the customer is impressed with SL in general they go get their own account and go looking at the rest of SL, if not then they stay in the IBM showroom.

That way IBM pays for the advertising and knows that the accounts they create only use the stuff they have paid for, and people get exposure to SL to look at a real situation.
eg
Demonstration of a new machine network, or product.

( And if they are giving the accounts to employees - so that they can work on the project presentation - they know the accounts aren't skiving off in some casino somewhere when they are logged on )



But then given that LL is sorta trying to promote SL technology any way to other people I sorta assume that all sorts of separate grids will start to pop up once people take the bait and see what it is capable of achieving.
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Xceptopec Wolfstein
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08-23-2006 03:00
From: azi Shilton
ive emailed education@lindenlabs, pathfinder@lindenlabs, sent website request, SL Live HELP etc. since 2nd Aug but have not received any replies till now :( Anyone knows how else i can get them? How long do they take to reply to emails?

Students are 17-19years old so it's gonna be a problem cos 18years and below, we gotta get an island on the teen grid but as you can see i've also got 19year olds.

If only someone from the Linden Lab Education Dept can respond to me and offer some advice!

I suspect you just shot yourself in the foot and totally scuppered any plans. Under 18's are not permitted into the grid, and were the Lindens to alter that for your purposes there would be a backlash against them, and agaisnt you or people like you. I think it is safe to say, not going to happen any time soon.
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08-23-2006 05:14
From: Xceptopec Wolfstein
I suspect you just shot yourself in the foot and totally scuppered any plans. Under 18's are not permitted into the grid, and were the Lindens to alter that for your purposes there would be a backlash against them, and agaisnt you or people like you. I think it is safe to say, not going to happen any time soon.


Not true. Actually, the Teen "grid" and the adult "grid" are physically the same grid. The teen grid are simply hidden PG islands on the main grid that only certain accounts (tenn flagged ones) can visit. Likewise, those teen flagged accounts can not visit other areas or islands on the grid that are not flagged as teen "grid".

There has never been a seperate system for the teens. They exist in the same asset server database, and operate right in the same network of islands on the same "grid" as the rest of us...just hidden from us.

Clearly the tech and system are already set up to do EXACTLY what you are asking for, as LL uses that exact system to designate the restricvted teen islands and restricted teen accounts now. I would highly encourage you to post in SL Answers or on the official blog to get attention to your request. They most definately CAN do what you are asking...question is...will they.

Good luck, it is a great idea, and I hope you can pull it together.
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Isaac Bergson
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Very Interesting...
08-23-2006 05:33
I rather have to say that's a very good idea, Azi! I don't see anything at all wrong with that and as a lot have pointed out. Big companies may want to do just that. If you got to do that it would say a LOT to me about LL. I would be happy to see you get that to come to pass. Now the thing is as pointed out. It can be done. The thing is WILL it ever be? Given the age range that you seek. That would maybe key word there maybe the only thing that puts a bottle neck in the process.

Of course who is to say. That even if the 17 year olds do want to actively seek some off time fun in SL they can still have an acct on the teen grid. And, you are limiting there access while in learning. So they won't be with people they shouldn't. I don't see that as a bad idea at all. You will have control of the situation. As long as you take that resposablility I don't see why that is anything to really be concerened over.

Isaac
azi Shilton
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08-23-2006 19:41
From: Zoe Llewelyn
Not true. Actually, the Teen "grid" and the adult "grid" are physically the same grid. The teen grid are simply hidden PG islands on the main grid that only certain accounts (tenn flagged ones) can visit. Likewise, those teen flagged accounts can not visit other areas or islands on the grid that are not flagged as teen "grid".

There has never been a seperate system for the teens. They exist in the same asset server database, and operate right in the same network of islands on the same "grid" as the rest of us...just hidden from us.

Clearly the tech and system are already set up to do EXACTLY what you are asking for, as LL uses that exact system to designate the restricvted teen islands and restricted teen accounts now. I would highly encourage you to post in SL Answers or on the official blog to get attention to your request. They most definately CAN do what you are asking...question is...will they.

Good luck, it is a great idea, and I hope you can pull it together.


Hi hi thanks for all the comments/advise etc. I've received replies from LL and it fits into exactly what i want.
nimrod Yaffle
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08-23-2006 20:13
From: Zoe Llewelyn
Not true. Actually, the Teen "grid" and the adult "grid" are physically the same grid. The teen grid are simply hidden PG islands on the main grid that only certain accounts (tenn flagged ones) can visit. Likewise, those teen flagged accounts can not visit other areas or islands on the grid that are not flagged as teen "grid".

There has never been a seperate system for the teens. They exist in the same asset server database, and operate right in the same network of islands on the same "grid" as the rest of us...just hidden from us.

Clearly the tech and system are already set up to do EXACTLY what you are asking for, as LL uses that exact system to designate the restricvted teen islands and restricted teen accounts now. I would highly encourage you to post in SL Answers or on the official blog to get attention to your request. They most definately CAN do what you are asking...question is...will they.

Good luck, it is a great idea, and I hope you can pull it together.

The TG is to the east, detached from the MG. :p
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08-23-2006 21:32
From: azi Shilton
because i intend to try this out on a group of students. and i'd only want them to access the private island which will be created for educational purposes.


It is my understanding there are already such islands in SL. I know that there have been classes of kids to visit Spaceport Alpha. I would have guessed the island was closed to residents at that time. Pathfinder Linden had been responsible for those issues i believe.
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