Land swoopers days numbered?

http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/08/16/as-days-go-by/

Torley Linden:

"YES SOMETHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT LAND SWOOPING! Look for a completely overhauled “set land for sale” process, currently being worked on. Still easy-to-use but will deter unhappy accidents. Many Lindens have been giving their input directly based on the many sad stories we’ve heard. Consider this a distilled achievable!"

Finally! Hopefully it will be an effective solution.

Sucked in land swoopers

yes!!

also.. we should shoot all the land swoopers too!! Vote prop 1689!! Have all land swoopers rounded up in RL and shot.

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Yeah!

I wonder how many of these stories were heard in the forums as opposed to other means of communication? Not trying to start an argument here, but this was something discussed quite often in the forums and I'm curious if LL would have realized the scope of the problem, and if other members would have come forward, but for the forums.

No argument from me. It's a totally valid question.

I submitted a detailed solution not too long ago:

/108/3e/114732/1.html#post1097895

I had planned on making the screen mock-ups as part of my SLCC presentation, so maybe I'll include those at my Second Life Home Pagesite.

Probably not a lot, I imagine.

That's a very good point, Cannae. Unfortunately t3h f0rumz are d00med

Not just a valid question, a most interesting one also. Further to this question, if it turns out that the primary motivation for the change and solution were derived from the forums I'd like to know how they will replace this information conduit when they close the forum.

Why, [email]abuse@lindenlabs.com[/email], of course.

...F*ck, I can't even laugh at it.

A simple solution, surely, would be to not publicly list plots that are set for L$0 or L$1 in the first place?

Add to that a timed refresh - even if only 5 minutes - so that things don't appear instantly ... and most people's problems are solved.

Nothing, sadly, will stop the unethical types that are the root cause of land swooping - but at least it slows them down.

Lewis

I liked the idea of a limbo/grace period (can't remember who posted it, sorry). You sell the land, the money and the land stays in limbo for a short period of time (say an hour). In that time you can break off the transaction if you change your mind.

This is the million dollar question as far as I'm concerned. They say they want more 'signal', less 'noise'. The forums definitely were able to convey the magnitude of problems and concerns. They will have to stay pretty damn attuned to that signal now, and I'm not sure that's entirely possible via the blog comments. They better listen real close.

There is something that would stop swoopers dead in their tracks, I proposed it in the Answers forum as a 1-way idea feed, and it's a very simple client-side change. All it does is set the default buyer to (nobody) and will refuse to complete the sell setup until a buyer is specified. To be able to sell to (anybody) you have to type "anybody)."

Bravo...excellent idea dqam sure it takes hold if the newest changes dont work...certianly this one would Brain is working on fastforward Aodhan...

Do you think Linden will become members of other forums? I should thinik once a clear cut leader emerges, they will monitor the conversations on those forums.

Since I am neither side of the fence here I can get away with saying this

Land Swoopers - sure they are a nuisance, sure they leave pepole out of pocket, however if people do similar in the real world(be it land or anything else), as long as they have not done anything illegal (only illegal, immoral has no grounding in law) then the person that has lost out has no recourse short of a civil lawsuit (or giving the person that allowed them to lose out a damned good shoeing).

Can people who have fallen victim to Land Swoopers honestly say hand on heart that they have not taken advantage of a similar error in real life on anything (but it small and mundane or large scale)? I'm willing to bet some of the people that sry about losing out to Land Swoopers have themselves benefitted from someone elses error either in RL or SL at least once, so let me ask those that are guilty of this, aren't you just being a shade hypocritical to cry about the Land Swoopers that got one over you?

Now this is an idea to end it all! If they even let us set it for sale to NOBODY and have it listed in the FIND! Then the buyer would have to IM the seller and have them set it to THEM! Now that I'd love to see so much more then ANYBODY! There would be no doubt then that the person who bought the land got it at a price they were susposed to get it for! This is a totally amazing idea. And I'd go for that idea 100%!

Way to go on that one Aodhan! I really like this one!

Isaac

They fixed the joining land problem too! From the release notes:

* Parcel joins and subdivides uncheck the For Sale box