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Bain Buridan
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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09-06-2006 23:14
Just before this forum closes .... i want to make a minor comment, which has to have been mentioned before somewhere

Why can't there be about 10sqm boundaries between houses .....

Owning land right up to the edge with someone else is silly ... im now selling my land because i know my view is about to be lost forever .. by a wall which has appeared right at the end of my property just because i didn't spend $70 buying that land

bit of a conspiracy to make me spend more money ... probably

just over the hill is a large castle for now around unsold land ... however, if dosen't make much imagination for me to buy that land and put a 20 foot high min tower right in from of it .. .effectively stopping them getting out their front door and all legal

can't someone give sim ownrs a bit more land .. so they have more room to put this boundary in .. or make it compulsory and charge sim owners a bit less ...

anyway though i've never seen a post on it .. someone must have commented on this before ..
Dnel DaSilva
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Join date: 22 May 2005
Posts: 781
09-06-2006 23:52
Mainland sims are a free for all. You can build almost anything you want within you own plot.

From: someone
Why can't there be about 10sqm boundaries between houses .....

I'll tell you why. How exacly would a sim look like with 10m spaces between plots? Might work if they are all nice and square, but look at your average sim, and try to imagine what it would take to put 10m between each and every plot. What happnes when plots are split and joined? You also mention between houses, probably 50% or more of the mainland is not used for houses.

An alternative: lets say you have a no-build area of 5m on the inside edge of every plot (making it 10m between build areas on adjoining plots). What happens to a 100mx100m plot (10000m2) with a 5m no-build zone on the inside edge? It becomes 90mx90m (8100m2) effectively a loss of 1900m2, thats a hefty chunk of tier for something you can't build on. How about 40mx40m? Goes from 1600m2 to 900m2, getting close to a 50% loss there. 32mx16m (512m2 first land plot)? Useless, 132m2, a loss of almost 75% of the land to build on. This is all assuming the plots are rectangular, can't imagine to see what you would loose on a parcel with a jagged edge.

Sorry, i don't think you thought this idea out very well, the logistics in it are a total nightmare and are absolutely unfeasable. You want space between builds? Rent from a private island that has zoning laws or get your own sim.
Ordinal Malaprop
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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09-06-2006 23:54
It has been mentioned before. Usually the context is of right of passage, and extending the Linden road/rail system or otherwise creating public land.
Cinos Field
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Join date: 21 Jul 2006
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09-06-2006 23:54
Alternatively, you can ruin the other guy's view in return. They'll get the point.
mcgeeb Gupte
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09-07-2006 00:25
From: Cinos Field
Alternatively, you can ruin the other guy's view in return. They'll get the point.


I'm next to a 16m2 lot that has one of those billboard ads on it (wont mention names but it has 3 billboard prims on it advertising black jack and stuff). So I put a couple of prims just as high as the billboard on two of the sides since I do own two of the sides next to it. I figure I can do it if he can do it too as long as its on our lands. Strangely, the land is for sale for over 9000L. I almost thought about buying it, but thats a bit crazy.

I wish there was space inbetween lots too. I know that will never happen. Build up in the sky perhaps??
Bain Buridan
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 29
09-07-2006 01:00
From: Dnel DaSilva
Sorry, i don't think you thought this idea out very well, the logistics in it are a total nightmare and are absolutely unfeasable. You want space between builds? Rent from a private island that has zoning laws or get your own sim.


I think the get your own sim idea is great ....... you wanna lend me the cash .....

but seriously i take your point !!!!

i guess my next land .... im gonna be on even more of a hill .... possibly directly over water
Vares Solvang
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Join date: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 2,235
09-07-2006 01:15
From: Cinos Field
Alternatively, you can ruin the other guy's view in return. They'll get the point.



Here's a novel idea, why not try talking to them about it in a civilized manner? Maybe they didn't even realize they were doing anything that might bother you.

Whatever happened to just being decent folks to each other?
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Fox Harker
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Join date: 2 Jul 2005
Posts: 14
09-07-2006 01:44
From: Bain Buridan
Just before this forum closes .... i want to make a minor comment, which has to have been mentioned before somewhere

Why can't there be about 10sqm boundaries between houses .....

Owning land right up to the edge with someone else is silly ... im now selling my land because i know my view is about to be lost forever .. by a wall which has appeared right at the end of my property just because i didn't spend $70 buying that land

bit of a conspiracy to make me spend more money ... probably

just over the hill is a large castle for now around unsold land ... however, if dosen't make much imagination for me to buy that land and put a 20 foot high min tower right in from of it .. .effectively stopping them getting out their front door and all legal

can't someone give sim ownrs a bit more land .. so they have more room to put this boundary in .. or make it compulsory and charge sim owners a bit less ...

anyway though i've never seen a post on it .. someone must have commented on this before ..


I'm afraid your ideas are impractical. It costs a fixed amount to run the server that a sim runs on, regardless of how much of that land is Linden land.

The fairest method then of dividing up that cost, is to let people decide how much land they want to buy for their purposes. If LL left land "between" parcles, that wouldn't affect how much it costs to run the server, which simply means that people would have to pay more for even less land.

When you buy land, you should simply expect that your neighbors are likely to build right up to the edge of their property, and plan acordingly. If you want open space, you need to plan for that when you buy your land.

As for the castle owner who has the entrance sitting directly on the border to another plot...I consider that both foolish and rude.

They are esentially taking the use of land that they haven't paid for, and expecting someone else to hold that land clear for them so that they can build right up to the edge of their property, as well as expecting that person to put up with strangers coming and going on their land, like it or not.

The owner of that property next door has every right to put up a fence there, put the back of their building there, or even put a piece of plywood across the door on their own side of the propertly line.

I'm sorry about your view, but I'm afraid that that's just one of the facts of life about SL. If you want a view, you need to own that view. If you want open space, you need to own that open space. It's not a mater of getting more money out of you. Servers cost what they cost.
Jack Harker
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Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 552
09-07-2006 01:45
From: Bain Buridan
Just before this forum closes .... i want to make a minor comment, which has to have been mentioned before somewhere

Why can't there be about 10sqm boundaries between houses .....

Owning land right up to the edge with someone else is silly ... im now selling my land because i know my view is about to be lost forever .. by a wall which has appeared right at the end of my property just because i didn't spend $70 buying that land

bit of a conspiracy to make me spend more money ... probably

just over the hill is a large castle for now around unsold land ... however, if dosen't make much imagination for me to buy that land and put a 20 foot high min tower right in from of it .. .effectively stopping them getting out their front door and all legal

can't someone give sim ownrs a bit more land .. so they have more room to put this boundary in .. or make it compulsory and charge sim owners a bit less ...

anyway though i've never seen a post on it .. someone must have commented on this before ..


I'm afraid your ideas are impractical. It costs a fixed amount to run the server that a sim runs on, regardless of how much of that land is Linden land.

The fairest method then of dividing up that cost, is to let people decide how much land they want to buy for their purposes. If LL left land "between" parcles, that wouldn't affect how much it costs to run the server, which simply means that people would have to pay more for even less land.

When you buy land, you should simply expect that your neighbors are likely to build right up to the edge of their property, and plan acordingly. If you want open space, you need to plan for that when you buy your land.

As for the castle owner who has the entrance sitting directly on the border to another plot...I consider that both foolish and rude.

They are esentially taking the use of land that they haven't paid for, and expecting someone else to hold that land clear for them so that they can build right up to the edge of their property, as well as expecting that person to put up with strangers coming and going on their land, like it or not.

The owner of that property next door has every right to put up a fence there, put the back of their building there, or even put a piece of plywood across the door on their own side of the propertly line.

I'm sorry about your view, but I'm afraid that that's just one of the facts of life about SL. If you want a view, you need to own that view. If you want open space, you need to own that open space. It's not a mater of getting more money out of you. Servers cost what they cost. However you divide them up, that cost is not going to change. The current method is a reasonably fair method of dividing up that cost.
Cinos Field
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Join date: 21 Jul 2006
Posts: 91
09-07-2006 02:17
From: Vares Solvang
Here's a novel idea, why not try talking to them about it in a civilized manner? Maybe they didn't even realize they were doing anything that might bother you.

Whatever happened to just being decent folks to each other?


I'm not much for peaceful solutions.