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Kujila Maltz

lol

Join date: 6 Aug 2005

Posts: 444

10-17-2005 17:49

Possible? If so, could someone direct me to a rental system capable of doing that? Thanks so much =)

Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

10-18-2005 01:34

You just need to make the tenants members of the group that owns the land. You'll need a officer to set the land options and subdivide/join the parcels and invite/eject members as required. Members can set their prims to the group so they avoid having them autoreturned (if autoreturn is set). Only officers can terraform.

Caution:
- officers of the group can sell the group's land to themselves for 0L$
- only officers can change the land options, not members, so it might be frustrating to some tenants - BUT members can deed tools like TV remotes and Radio prims to the group so these can change the URLs of streamed media on the parcel... although maybe only officers can do that, I'm not sure :/

Working around these two points means that you're the only officer in the group and can install complex scripted machines to let a given person manipulate some of the parcel's setting (terraforming and streaming options, mainly). I think this is what you refer as rental system ? Scripted machines that authorize someone to manipulate these options for a given period of time upon payment ?

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Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.

Kujila Maltz

lol

Join date: 6 Aug 2005

Posts: 444

10-18-2005 14:01

Interesting... thanks

Kujila Maltz

lol

Join date: 6 Aug 2005

Posts: 444

10-22-2005 20:19

Sorry for the bump or sorts, but I have more questions and I thought i best to post in an existing topic...

From: Jesrad Seraph

You just need to make the tenants members of the group that owns the land. You'll need a officer to set the land options and subdivide/join the parcels and invite/eject members as required. Members can set their prims to the group so they avoid having them autoreturned (if autoreturn is set). Only officers can terraform.

Caution:
- officers of the group can sell the group's land to themselves for 0L$
- only officers can change the land options, not members, so it might be frustrating to some tenants - BUT members can deed tools like TV remotes and Radio prims to the group so these can change the URLs of streamed media on the parcel... although maybe only officers can do that, I'm not sure :/

Right - There's two officers in the group, one of which is MIA, thus leaving me. The other officer bought the land, pays monthly, and set the land to group owned. If he quits paying premium, will the land vanish?

From: someone

Working around these two points means that you're the only officer in the group and can install complex scripted machines to let a given person manipulate some of the parcel's setting (terraforming and streaming options, mainly). I think this is what you refer as rental system ? Scripted machines that authorize someone to manipulate these options for a given period of time upon payment ?

Ah, by rental system I mean those cubes where it says "Rent this stall" in a mall and you can automatically rent it out without needing to contact the land owner (Which in this roundabout case would be me)

Schwanson Schlegel

SL's Tokin' Villain

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,721

10-22-2005 20:55

From: Kujila Maltz

If he quits paying premium, will the land vanish?

The land will revert to Governor Linden. It will then go up for auction.

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Kujila Maltz

lol

Join date: 6 Aug 2005

Posts: 444

10-22-2005 21:01

Oh, alright thanks. I'm seriously considering a premium account any ways since I spend 90% of my free time on SecondLife (Nooo! My social life is ruiinnneed!

)

Anyone know about those automated rental system "cubes" I'm talking about?

Lestat Llewelyn

Memnochs Madness

Join date: 27 Jul 2004

Posts: 19

well there are a few out there for sale

10-22-2005 21:22

hi

there are plenty of rentos out there for sale and they range from $L5000 or 5% of rent paid to 2% of rent paid or L$1000. I sell my rentos for $L1000 which are very simple to use. if your after something simple to use then i recommend my rento.

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Memnochs Madness

rentals, vendors, organisers, collars and much more

[CENTER] @ the Grange | @ Beverly Hills

Kujila Maltz

lol

Join date: 6 Aug 2005

Posts: 444

10-22-2005 21:45

Ah, not worth it in my situation

... I'll only have this land until sometime in November when the other officer returns, plus I would only charge like L$20/week because of the small land plot and obscure location.

Newbie Question - Renting out Group-owned land?
Kujila Maltz lol Join date: 6 Aug 2005 Posts: 444	10-17-2005 17:49 Possible? If so, could someone direct me to a rental system capable of doing that? Thanks so much =)
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	10-18-2005 01:34 You just need to make the tenants members of the group that owns the land. You'll need a officer to set the land options and subdivide/join the parcels and invite/eject members as required. Members can set their prims to the group so they avoid having them autoreturned (if autoreturn is set). Only officers can terraform. Caution: - officers of the group can sell the group's land to themselves for 0L$ - only officers can change the land options, not members, so it might be frustrating to some tenants - BUT members can deed tools like TV remotes and Radio prims to the group so these can change the URLs of streamed media on the parcel... although maybe only officers can do that, I'm not sure :/ Working around these two points means that you're the only officer in the group and can install complex scripted machines to let a given person manipulate some of the parcel's setting (terraforming and streaming options, mainly). I think this is what you refer as rental system ? Scripted machines that authorize someone to manipulate these options for a given period of time upon payment ? _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Kujila Maltz lol Join date: 6 Aug 2005 Posts: 444	10-18-2005 14:01 Interesting... thanks
Kujila Maltz lol Join date: 6 Aug 2005 Posts: 444	10-22-2005 20:19 Sorry for the bump or sorts, but I have more questions and I thought i best to post in an existing topic... From: Jesrad Seraph You just need to make the tenants members of the group that owns the land. You'll need a officer to set the land options and subdivide/join the parcels and invite/eject members as required. Members can set their prims to the group so they avoid having them autoreturned (if autoreturn is set). Only officers can terraform. Caution: - officers of the group can sell the group's land to themselves for 0L$ - only officers can change the land options, not members, so it might be frustrating to some tenants - BUT members can deed tools like TV remotes and Radio prims to the group so these can change the URLs of streamed media on the parcel... although maybe only officers can do that, I'm not sure :/ Right - There's two officers in the group, one of which is MIA, thus leaving me. The other officer bought the land, pays monthly, and set the land to group owned. If he quits paying premium, will the land vanish? From: someone Working around these two points means that you're the only officer in the group and can install complex scripted machines to let a given person manipulate some of the parcel's setting (terraforming and streaming options, mainly). I think this is what you refer as rental system ? Scripted machines that authorize someone to manipulate these options for a given period of time upon payment ? Ah, by rental system I mean those cubes where it says "Rent this stall" in a mall and you can automatically rent it out without needing to contact the land owner (Which in this roundabout case would be me)
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	10-22-2005 20:55 From: Kujila Maltz If he quits paying premium, will the land vanish? The land will revert to Governor Linden. It will then go up for auction. _____________________
Kujila Maltz lol Join date: 6 Aug 2005 Posts: 444	10-22-2005 21:01 Oh, alright thanks. I'm seriously considering a premium account any ways since I spend 90% of my free time on SecondLife (Nooo! My social life is ruiinnneed! ) Anyone know about those automated rental system "cubes" I'm talking about?
Lestat Llewelyn Memnochs Madness Join date: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 19	well there are a few out there for sale 10-22-2005 21:22 hi there are plenty of rentos out there for sale and they range from $L5000 or 5% of rent paid to 2% of rent paid or L$1000. I sell my rentos for $L1000 which are very simple to use. if your after something simple to use then i recommend my rento. _____________________ Memnochs Madness rentals, vendors, organisers, collars and much more [CENTER] @ the Grange \| @ Beverly Hills
Kujila Maltz lol Join date: 6 Aug 2005 Posts: 444	10-22-2005 21:45 Ah, not worth it in my situation ... I'll only have this land until sometime in November when the other officer returns, plus I would only charge like L$20/week because of the small land plot and obscure location.

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