Revolutionary concept or not??

When I first heard about this site, i thought it would be revolutionary. i thought it might be the new age of the internet. I believed it would be the ideal place for any website to be placed where information could be displayed easily in a 3d world. I thought it would be cheap to own the land and have it hosted. it isnt. This limits all the sites across the internet that are simply their to help people and not raise money. The concept was brilliant and with change could be revolutionary. it seems to be more of a roleplaying game that has some money involved then a new age defining program. If it was cheaper to own land and made mpre seriously it could bring in so many other sites.
Now onto the topic of people masking homes. This turns second life into a roleplaying game. There is no point expecially if people make them private. The fact that people just sit idle when not online is not productive. there are no websites on the internet that are homes. There are homepages but those have pictures and other things that make it worthwhile for people to visit.
So my question is do you think this site is revolutionary or just a fun role playing game.

This "place" is whatever you want it to be

myspace. live journal. etc

It's not exactly expensive is it? And why would you think it would be free, which must be what you mean. How much does a computer game cost? I've already spent more time in SL than I have in a computer game. Or how much to own web space and domain? Also, when you start making things in SL you make money back. In my first week of opening my shop I have made almost L$1000. It's bugger all in real terms but is twice a much as your first land costs. The fact that real money is concerned, albiet in small amounts, makes it more intriguing to me. It's also worth mentioning that a few residents actually make a real living out of Second Life. This makes it a far more... grown up environment. If everyone turned up and took as much land as they want free it wouldn't work and it wouldn't be any fun.

Albion

To be comparable to existing 2D web space and commercially usable we need:

Ability to backup offline.

Ability to author offline.

Ability to control access (privacy!/logins!).

Alternate hosting services (open source?).

That is, the 3D equivalent to Apache/tomcat/PHP/JSP etc.

Just my $L2 worth.

Ed

There are people making a living playing Ultima Online too. It's a game. A fun game. But a game nontheless.

So? Is it free, which seemed to be the point of the complaint? And I find SL a lot of fun too.

Albion

I rather thought this bit was the point of his complaint Albion.

Fair enough Conan. But the part of the post I was addressing was about the cost of SL. The last question, which was admittedly the subject title, didn't seem to have much to do with the rest of the post. Unless he is saying that because you have to pay to own land in SL it can't be revoluntionary. I don't understand why anyone would think it should be free.

Abion

I honestly don't like videogames much...
they're set up so most people with basic tastes will like them.

But I'm eccentric, I'm not like most people...
typical videogames bore me to tears.

Oh I'd love an xbox or playstation... but the software
doesn't crank my gears much.

Secondlife is much more appealing, and even if I don't
feel like doing much, I can just sit and chat.

I did like the first Harry Potter game, there was a lot of
exploring, and I found I enjoyed doing that more than
playing some pre-set game... had there been a straight
hogwarts simulator, I would have bought it I reckon.

Secondlife has it's probs, but remember, it's in it's baby
stage so it's awkward, and falls down a lot... and the
public aren't quite sure what it's for or what it can do.

It'll get a lot better... but only if people make use of it
and get more creative.

In years to come it has the capacity to be stunning.

Stick with it.

Wolfie!

No it doesn't. Are you roleplaying when in your RL home? No, you're just being.

I'm not roleplaying anything when I'm in my SL home, I'm just being me, virtually. It's not like I'm acting out being a suburbanite washing the dishes or taking out the trash.

I think land is quite cheap. Ten, twenty dollars for a small parcel? That is cheap. Sometimes I think people view things as being expensive in SL just because in L$ it comes with a few zeros on the end. Convert it, and L$1000, is a few dollars. It sort of sounds bigger than it is.

revolutionary

minus the R

mine cost 4 bucks a month with a professional "been around forever" company
and the .us domain was like a buck (on sale) and 8 to renew (after 2 years)

SL reminds me of AOL in 1991, probally the best choice @ the time but it didnt take too long for something much better to come out

And yet nothing better has come out since it launched.

give it time ... how many years did active worlds run unchallenged

i dont see much roleplaying, i see people being people.

this world is revolutionary, just happens the original poster misunderstood what SL is about and was expecting a MySpace clone.

Well tell us all when it arrives. I'm sure we'd all like to hear about it. Although, I'm not sure if you're going to be interested as it won't have been around forever, whatever that means.

Albion

im not shure i follow you .. talking about my webserver i would rather have a company thats been around and proven rather than some 19 year olds with a apartment full of el cheapo celerons

maby i should have put 2 post up or a pagebreak or something since it obiously got you fired up

besides it was just a smart ass remark to something you had posted , like a webserver in 2006 is more expensive than a mercadies or something

If you're interested, Second Life came up in a recent article on the future of the factory:

http://www.samsung.com/Features/BrandMagazine/magazinedigitall/2006_summer/feat_04a.htm

Apparently one of my blog entries from January then found its way to the author who then posted an entry on his blog about it. That idea grew mostly from what I learned in SL. As it turns out this same guy has collected a number of links to my posts (and others) on "kirkyans", which is a concept that came to me because of Second Life.

None of that stuff is about roleplaying games.

And you can read my response to that article here: http://blog.rebang.com/?p=977 (it has plenty of links, many of them related to SL).

Depends on your particular definition of "best". Best for computer neophytes of the time maybe, due to it's graphical DOS interface, but *my* definition of "best" at that time would fall into the Compuserve catagory (which, incedentally, came WAY BEFORE AOL... started in 1969) . Many, many good things came of the 3d graphics forum there, in which I was quite involved. Was really, really cool to participate in discussions about how would be best to do this or that.. then a few months later see a commercial on TV or a movie segment that was obviously what the discussion was all about.

Well, based on the fact that you have posted umpteen questions today regarding the world, how it works, why do people do this/that, etc., I think that part of your problem may be that you arrived with a preconceived notion of what this place is and are trying to figure out how to map those expectations to what you have actually found.

I have been here for only a month, and my ample RL free time means that I have spent about 10 hours a day either in world, reading SL-related blogs and articles, or reading the forums. And does that mean that I figure out what this place IS? No, it doesn't. The world is more vast and complex than I have experienced from my small vantage point--even with a lot of exploration.

With time, perhaps an answer will reveal itself to you, but it won't happen by being a critical observer. It requires immersion. And if you can't go there, then you really won't find what you're looking for. And no one here can give it to you.

No matter how much you post and ask for it.

QFT

I still feel the same way after spending a year in SL.

QFT? No, I won't. But you're welcome to ignore me from here on out. I won't miss you.