Second Life Forums Archive - Proposal 674: Prim overload returns should be strictly last in / First out

Fritz Rosencrans

Registered User

Join date: 1 Feb 2005

Posts: 36

10-24-2005 02:25

Hi!

Beacuse of the latest events, and others, I have made a proposal that the automatic return of objects due to prim overload of land sould be strictly on a last in / first out basis.

I have in the past lost stuff because of accidental prim overload ( a huge Zeppelin floating over my already full land), and it irritated me no end that I had to rebuild and relink my house because of the prim overload.

I believe the prim overload (and prim attack) issue would be a lot less troublesome if the autoreturn of overload prims operated on a strict Last In, First Out basis.

Then the newest (either your own, or the intruding) prims would be returned, and you would be able to avoid the whole hassle of rebuilding.

If you like this idea, give it a vote.

Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

10-24-2005 02:36

This is definitely a nasty bug. LL, fix it please.
(Make sure you file bug reports, too)

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Fritz Rosencrans

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Join date: 1 Feb 2005

Posts: 36

10-24-2005 04:00

Hi Jesrad,

Thanks for your support.

I copied my original post to the Features forum, since I think it really belongs there.

It probably is not a bug, "just" a missing functionality. It would not hurt though, to treat it as a bug and submit reports about it, since it bugs the heck out of me! And it plain Shouldn't Be.

I have maybe 3 posts in the forum ever, so I was maybe a bit uniformed to put the post here. But it occurred to me when I read about the SL Space Server crash here in General, so I added it here as being of current interest.

Helen Dayton

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Join date: 19 Mar 2004

Posts: 93

10-24-2005 04:31

Agreed on the last in first out return idea.... fortunately, I had recently cleared up a lot of prims and had quite a few to spare when this attack happened. I was working on my house at the time, so was quickly able to check how many prims there were and returned all 77 of them to the offending person before the sim died.

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Helen Dayton

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

10-24-2005 04:46

This bug is still around?! Sheesh.

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Cybin Monde

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Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,468

my votes are in..

10-24-2005 07:15

i remember this subject coming up awhile back.. still a great idea. it makes perfect logical sense.. one wonders why it hasn't been implemented already!

i had 2 votes left to use.. i put them both towards this Prop., i hope to see it go through someday.

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Travis Lambert

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Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

10-24-2005 07:17

Ugh - I thought they fixed this already! Good call on the proposal.

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Nicole David

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Join date: 7 Sep 2005

Posts: 134

10-24-2005 10:21

I think they should add a feature where you can add names of people whose objects actually belong on the land (useful for group land where objects arent set or deeded to group). Then you can list them in order of whose should be deleted first if anything ever happens that causes a prim overload. This would be ideal because it would definatley get rid of the unwanted prims first.

Martin Magpie

Catherine Cotton

Join date: 13 Nov 2004

Posts: 1,826

10-24-2005 10:27

From: Travis Lambert

Ugh - I thought they fixed this already! Good call on the proposal.

eep I thought so too. Well if the world got wiped I would think they would of done a server rollback of say 15 min. Which we know they can do, but don't usualy do for individuals.

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Proposal 674: Prim overload returns should be strictly last in / First out
Fritz Rosencrans Registered User Join date: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 36	10-24-2005 02:25 Hi! Beacuse of the latest events, and others, I have made a proposal that the automatic return of objects due to prim overload of land sould be strictly on a last in / first out basis. I have in the past lost stuff because of accidental prim overload ( a huge Zeppelin floating over my already full land), and it irritated me no end that I had to rebuild and relink my house because of the prim overload. I believe the prim overload (and prim attack) issue would be a lot less troublesome if the autoreturn of overload prims operated on a strict Last In, First Out basis. Then the newest (either your own, or the intruding) prims would be returned, and you would be able to avoid the whole hassle of rebuilding. If you like this idea, give it a vote.
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	10-24-2005 02:36 This is definitely a nasty bug. LL, fix it please. (Make sure you file bug reports, too) _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Fritz Rosencrans Registered User Join date: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 36	10-24-2005 04:00 Hi Jesrad, Thanks for your support. I copied my original post to the Features forum, since I think it really belongs there. It probably is not a bug, "just" a missing functionality. It would not hurt though, to treat it as a bug and submit reports about it, since it bugs the heck out of me! And it plain Shouldn't Be. I have maybe 3 posts in the forum ever, so I was maybe a bit uniformed to put the post here. But it occurred to me when I read about the SL Space Server crash here in General, so I added it here as being of current interest.
Helen Dayton Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 93	10-24-2005 04:31 Agreed on the last in first out return idea.... fortunately, I had recently cleared up a lot of prims and had quite a few to spare when this attack happened. I was working on my house at the time, so was quickly able to check how many prims there were and returned all 77 of them to the offending person before the sim died. _____________________ Helen Dayton
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	10-24-2005 04:46 This bug is still around?! Sheesh. _____________________
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	my votes are in.. 10-24-2005 07:15 i remember this subject coming up awhile back.. still a great idea. it makes perfect logical sense.. one wonders why it hasn't been implemented already! i had 2 votes left to use.. i put them both towards this Prop., i hope to see it go through someday. _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	10-24-2005 07:17 Ugh - I thought they fixed this already! Good call on the proposal. _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.
Nicole David Furniture Queen Join date: 7 Sep 2005 Posts: 134	10-24-2005 10:21 I think they should add a feature where you can add names of people whose objects actually belong on the land (useful for group land where objects arent set or deeded to group). Then you can list them in order of whose should be deleted first if anything ever happens that causes a prim overload. This would be ideal because it would definatley get rid of the unwanted prims first.
Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826	10-24-2005 10:27 From: Travis Lambert Ugh - I thought they fixed this already! Good call on the proposal. eep I thought so too. Well if the world got wiped I would think they would of done a server rollback of say 15 min. Which we know they can do, but don't usualy do for individuals. Mar _____________________

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