Hi y'all. I want some opinions here. The events calendar has been ruined for some time now by people seeking a free ride and I see that the Lindens are making an attempt to clean it up but the abuse still continues. There are still commercials for clubs, rentals, all day yard sales and other such nonsense.
Does anyone have a suggestion how a common citizen can help to curb this abuse?
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Susie Boffin
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05-12-2006 19:38
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Vares Solvang
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05-12-2006 19:50
Ignore them.
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Richie Waves
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05-12-2006 20:01
whats this like the 50th post pertaining to this issue this week?
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Susie Boffin
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05-12-2006 20:09
whats this like the 50th post pertaining to this issue this week? k maybe the 12th Until it is resolved you are likely to see more. What is your suggestion? I asked for solutions and not a whine.  _____________________
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Susie Boffin
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05-12-2006 20:34
Ignore them. Seriously, if no responds to these events, they will quit posting them. There are too many people who either don't read the ToS or the forums to realize they are going to a non event and they don't care. I mean why should they? _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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05-12-2006 21:48
Hi Susie, I think the best thing to do is abuse report each one you find, and let the Linens handle it
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Jonas Pierterson
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05-12-2006 23:24
And which ones -exactly- ar enonevents?
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Merlyn Bailly
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05-13-2006 00:05
And which ones -exactly- ar enonevents? Slingo or Tringo, posted every two hours by a casino, in which only the name of the host/poster changes. _____________________
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Lewis Nerd
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05-13-2006 00:22
Slingo or Tringo, posted every two hours by a casino, in which only the name of the host/poster changes. Don't forget the condo rentals, mall rentals and similar. A certain popular gaming island is one that really, really needs to be restricted on their postings because that is really spamming the calendar. As already agreed, perpetual events that go on 24/7 just with different hosts are not 'events' any more than my disco is an 'event' simply because it's there. If, however, I decide to host a themed session there, then it becomes an event. The differences are subtle, but quite clear. Lewis _____________________
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Clarrice Cinquetti
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05-13-2006 03:22
After checking events here on the site I see:
Discussion 3 Sports 2 Live Music 9 Commercial 7 Nightlife 17 Games 51 Pageants 0 Education 27 Arts 3 Charity 2 Misc 5 Originally Posted by Merlyn Bailly Slingo or Tringo, posted every two hours by a casino, in which only the name of the host/poster changes. If it is posted under the games category and has a host...the rules haven't been broken... Is it because people don't use the tab to check for specific events that they get so over whelmed by less then 150 events? _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
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05-13-2006 05:13
Slingo, tringo and other games follow all the rules of event postings. Sorry, they -are- events.
Let me clarify from a previous posting: the rules should read: To further clarify, you may post an event on a parcel if: - You personally own the parcel and it is at least 512 square meters in size. - The parcel is owned by a group that you are a member of, and it is at least 512 square meters. - The parcel is in a private island that you are on the access list of, and it is at least 512 square meters. - The parcel belongs to Governor Linden and is set to show in Find Places as a Meeting Place. - The parcel belongs to a friend, it is set to show in Find Places as a Meeting Place, and it is at least 512 square meters. apologies for the confusion here. I will change the text accordingly 1. The owner of the club or his associates post. Slingo thus qualifies. 2. group, see number 1 3. see number 1 Also: An event is defined as a special group activity that is led by a host on land owned either by the host or by a group the host belongs to. Examples include discussions, group meetings, hosted dances, classes, tours, and competitions. so everyone can see the rules allowing it slingo is a group activity run on owned land, and is a competition. Since games (at least in Cycnia) do not run 24/7 then the Gaming Plaza's slingo is an event. Slingo and tringo -are- events, no matter how much you dislike them |
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Ewan Took
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05-13-2006 05:19
They did try and do something about one certain type of abuse, but some people got on their high horses on a crusade because one of these 'events' might be real amongst the dozens of fakes. Result- we still have dozens of fakes, so well done. So I agree with the poster that says ignore 'em all.
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katykiwi Moonflower
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05-13-2006 11:09
And which ones -exactly- ar enonevents? That is not an event. Thats an ad for her store! _____________________
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Doubledown Tandino
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05-13-2006 11:14
It is starting to get annoying that people feel that events they don't care about aren't events. I understand the events are getting spammed, but still a legit event still may be something you are not interested in.
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Kalley Koala
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05-19-2006 13:37
ok.. I get what a lot of you are saying.. so.. tell me your thoughts on this..
You have the huge game places listing "events" every few hours that are the same exact thing.. just different host... this is OK with the rules.. yet in my mind annoying.. but I can ignore it. Now.. I posted an event and was told I was in violation and it was removed. I posted a "Blitz Sale" in commercial. It was a sale to show off a couple of new lines of clothing at a 1 time low price and had a clear start and stop time, lasted 2 or 3 hours I can't remember which. It was posted 1 time on the events list. I guess I just dont understand how some get to fill the list with the same old thing over and over and over again.. and my sale was in violation. _____________________
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Enabran Templar
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05-19-2006 13:57
eBay was initially pretty useless, but I've read that when they started charging nominal, per-auction fees for each listing, the service really took off.
So, again, if you want to solve this problem, make the event calendar pay-to-post. I've been saying it forever, but here it is once more. Just a second, let me give equal time to the whiners and save them from posting: "Whaa, that's not nice! It's not nice to charge for things! Things should be free! You're always giving people sticks and carrots up their butts! Whaa!" Et cetera. _____________________
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Travis Lambert
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05-19-2006 14:11
eBay was initially pretty useless, but I've read that when they started charging nominal, per-auction fees for each listing, the service really took off. So, again, if you want to solve this problem, make the event calendar pay-to-post. I've been saying it forever, but here it is once more. Just a second, let me give equal time to the whiners and save them from posting: "Whaa, that's not nice! It's not nice to charge for things! Things should be free! You're always giving people sticks and carrots up their butts! Whaa!" Et cetera. Agree on the idea that charging for event posts might help. But I don't think its the *only* solution, nor the best one. Not all events have a profit motive, and those that don't might find themselves disenfranchized by a move towards charging fees. (emphasis on the word might  )IMHO, I think the best option for residents is better technology: More robust search & filter capabilities, and fewer (or no) restrictions. However, I recognize that this might not be the best solution for Linden from a Dev perspective. Imagine what eBay would be like if their search capabilites were on par with Second Life's. I think if it were that way, we'd be referring to eBay in the past tense. _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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05-19-2006 14:13
Kalley: was it hosted?
General: I just went and took a gander at the events calendar. While it is MUCH better than it has been in recent months, its still plagued by yard sales, sales w/o hosts, etc. Some things I noticed that were questionable: A grand re-opening that takes place every 4 hours over the course of the day. Nothing special and probably not hosted for 10 hours. More than one yard sale that is not hosted and not a yard sale. For one, I was there last night and she was selling stuff she made like it was a store. Only it was in her yard. And she wasn't there. Still going on today. And more than likely will be posted several times a day all weekend long. This is the kind of crap that really junks up the events list. Simone's 72 hour half price sale is posted a lot. Now I was there this morning and Simone was on site -- hosting. I'm assuming that since different people are posting it that different folks will be on site hosting. Could be wrong. If I were policing the list I'd be checking this out. That was a cursory glance. Now digging deeper, things get really interesting. If you sort by host, you get a good idea of which posters are abusing and which are not. But what *really* gives it away is sorting by event and seeing the 8 postings in one day for the same event at a single place. The 7 grand re-openings really got me. No wonder its so hard to find events in the events calendar! |
