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How many PRIMS should I expect on land rental?

OuiOui Noland
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Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 17
09-01-2006 13:19
Hello,

My friend and I just rented a sweet piece of land and we are thrilled. Its 2833 in size and we want to build a custom home yet we found it only has 615 prims. The home we will build will be around 3-400 prims leaving us with very little to do all the decorating that makes a home so cool.

My question is this: What kind of prim count is considered average when you rent land? The owner says to rent another parcel and then those prims will be transferred over. Sure thats an option.... at double the price.

For instance I ran into a home rental recently that had 1000 prims included above and beyond the prims that made up the custom home. And that home was renting for a price of 800 a week.

I guess another question is this... anyone know of other land that is from 2500-3500 in size with around 1200 prims? We are willing to pay for the extra prims, just not looking to double the price to do that.

Thanks !

Oui
Cutter Rubio
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Join date: 7 Feb 2004
Posts: 264
09-01-2006 13:31
On average, in a normal sim, expect about 115 prims per 512m2. There are also low-prim sims with more land area, for those who favor open space over prim allowance. This is for normal, purchased land - rentals could be, and probably are, different since sim owners can play with the prims/parcel multiplier. In any event, a normal sim is typically limited to 15000 prims total. If you do the math, you want about 10 times the prims allowed on a 512m parcel, so you would need around 5000-6000m of land to get that.

Talk to the land owner and they'll probably be open to an arrangement, but it will certainly cost you more - prims are a finite, consumable resource.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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09-01-2006 14:18
What you got is about dead on for normal land, whether you buy or rent.

As the other poster noted, you get about 115 prims per 512 M2 of land that you own in that sim. They do not have to be contiguous, just in the same sim. So to get 1000 prims to play with, you'd need to buy or rent roughly 4450 M2 of land. Or to put it another way, you would need 1/15th of a full sim to get 1000 prims. A rental mansion on a lot big enough to allow it an additional 1000 prims, over and above the house, is on a pretty big lot!

As an example. Say that in one sim, I have a house on 1440 M2 of land. I also own a 512 M2 plot with a smaller house, and a 2048 M2 parcel that is under the lagoon, and just has 3 prims worth of fish swimming on it. That 2048 M2 under the lagoon buys me over 400 prims extra to decorate with on my other two parcels in that sim. With all that land, 4000 M2, my total prim allowance is roughly 900 prims.

A full sim is allowed 15,000 prims. That fact can't be changed. A sim owner can, at their discretion, add an adjusting factor to the sim, so that the "Parcel is full" messages and parcel prim limits don't trigger until a higher limit is reached per M2 in the parcel. For example, an adjusting factor of 1.5 would allow a 512 M2 parcel in that sim to have 172 prims on it, even if you owned nothing else in the sim. The caveat there is that when the sim itself hits 15,000 prims, EVERYONE is full, no matter what their parcel limits are. So a sim owner who messes around with that limit has to set aside land underwater or other barren, prim-empty land that will never get sold, to compensate for being more generous with prim count limits elsewhere.

The 'reduced prim' sims are NOT ever used for normal rental or residential sims. They are sold in batches of 4 sims at a time, for private estates, and are primarily used to put navigable water and maybe some tiny micro-islands adjacent to normal sims. What they really are is four sims operating on a single server and using one sin's worth of resources - so they only hold 10 active agents at a time and only allow 3750 prims in each of the four reduced prim sims in that set.
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Jessica Elytis
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Join date: 7 Oct 2005
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09-01-2006 14:23
Aye, what you got is about right. I have a notecard with a table for tier/sqm/prims. IM me if you'd like a copy and I'll shoot it over to ya.

Jessy
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Ceera Murakami
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09-01-2006 17:31
By the way, you might want to consider a more prim-friendly home design. I've built a two story, 800 square meter floor plan tavern with only 200 or so prims, and it certainly was't lacking in detailing. I designed a two story dance club once that had a 45 meter by 45 meter footprint, and that also only used about 200 prims. With 400 prims to play with, I could build quite a mansion!

Incidentally, I have yet to see ANY sim owner who has adjusted that prim count variable in their estate tools. The risk of running out of prims for the whole sim outweighs any positive benefits from messing with the prims per square meter ratio.
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OuiOui Noland
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Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 17
09-02-2006 00:37
Thanks all !

This is the exact info I was looking for. Not what I wanted to hear but I wanted to know how it works so I know what I am dealing with now.

Thanks

Oui