Second Life Forums Archive - Merging groups or land for clubs

grumble Loudon

A Little bit a lion

Join date: 30 Nov 2005

Posts: 612

08-24-2006 14:28

Like many clubs we have several groups. Security, Vendors, VIP’s, ect…
With the new group system we can combine all those into one group and give our security the power to return objects.

The problem comes into how to actually do it.
Option 1: Merging land and objects into VIP group.
The Vip group has the most members so it would make sense to merge everyone into that group, however the land is cut up into pieces and trying to transfer the land piece by piece will cause pieces of land to go over their prim budget. I cannot merge the land since the “extra Prim” land is not adjacent. My only option is to pick up the high prim items and then do the transfer. Then there is the whole issue of going around and setting the new objects to the new group since they are only “set to group” and not deeded.

Option 2: Trying to invite the 100’s of VIP members into the new group.
Currently I do not see any way to cut and paste their names to invite them to the new group. And then there is the whole issue of how many people will accept the invite.
I would have to first eject them from the old group in order to ensure they have space in their profile for the new group since multiple clubs may be doing this at the same time.

In the end this will lead to less groups and a more manageable club, the question is how to convert over to it.

grumble Loudon

A Little bit a lion

Join date: 30 Nov 2005

Posts: 612

08-24-2006 15:27

With this forum so overflowing with other traffic, I will post this to the secondlife answers forum tomorrow.

Spiritfire Musketeer

Designing Knight

Join date: 1 Oct 2005

Posts: 65

08-25-2006 11:47

In the case of My club, I merged all the staff groups into the land holders group, and kept the VIP group separate still. By keeping the VIPs separate, they are still able to get group notices and IMs for events, and they don't hear the group IMs and notices that are meant for staff only.

It's still 2 groups, but better than the 5 we had before

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Karsten Rutledge

Linux User

Join date: 8 Feb 2005

Posts: 841

08-25-2006 12:40

From: grumble Loudon

Like many clubs we have several groups. Security, Vendors, VIP’s, ect…
With the new group system we can combine all those into one group and give our security the power to return objects.

The problem comes into how to actually do it.
Option 1: Merging land and objects into VIP group.
The Vip group has the most members so it would make sense to merge everyone into that group, however the land is cut up into pieces and trying to transfer the land piece by piece will cause pieces of land to go over their prim budget. I cannot merge the land since the “extra Prim” land is not adjacent. My only option is to pick up the high prim items and then do the transfer. Then there is the whole issue of going around and setting the new objects to the new group since they are only “set to group” and not deeded.

Option 2: Trying to invite the 100’s of VIP members into the new group.
Currently I do not see any way to cut and paste their names to invite them to the new group. And then there is the whole issue of how many people will accept the invite.
I would have to first eject them from the old group in order to ensure they have space in their profile for the new group since multiple clubs may be doing this at the same time.

In the end this will lead to less groups and a more manageable club, the question is how to convert over to it.

This may help you a bit: You can combine parcels into a single parcel even if they are not connected in any fashion (must be in the same sim of course, if they're not the prim counts aren't helping you anyway.) Just select across any land that's not yours so that all your land is in the selection box somehow and hit Join, it should just merge all your parcels together. I've done this before with land on two sides of a Linden road.

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grumble Loudon

A Little bit a lion

Join date: 30 Nov 2005

Posts: 612

08-25-2006 20:45

Thanks for the sugestions.
I like the idea of keeping the VIP list seperate and that also meens I don't have to transfer the land.

Thanks for the info on the join parcel. I hadn't tried that since my client normaly isn't set to see that far. (It's on the other side of the same sim)

Merging groups or land for clubs
grumble Loudon A Little bit a lion Join date: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 612	08-24-2006 14:28 Like many clubs we have several groups. Security, Vendors, VIP’s, ect… With the new group system we can combine all those into one group and give our security the power to return objects. The problem comes into how to actually do it. Option 1: Merging land and objects into VIP group. The Vip group has the most members so it would make sense to merge everyone into that group, however the land is cut up into pieces and trying to transfer the land piece by piece will cause pieces of land to go over their prim budget. I cannot merge the land since the “extra Prim” land is not adjacent. My only option is to pick up the high prim items and then do the transfer. Then there is the whole issue of going around and setting the new objects to the new group since they are only “set to group” and not deeded. Option 2: Trying to invite the 100’s of VIP members into the new group. Currently I do not see any way to cut and paste their names to invite them to the new group. And then there is the whole issue of how many people will accept the invite. I would have to first eject them from the old group in order to ensure they have space in their profile for the new group since multiple clubs may be doing this at the same time. In the end this will lead to less groups and a more manageable club, the question is how to convert over to it.
grumble Loudon A Little bit a lion Join date: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 612	08-24-2006 15:27 With this forum so overflowing with other traffic, I will post this to the secondlife answers forum tomorrow.
Spiritfire Musketeer Designing Knight Join date: 1 Oct 2005 Posts: 65	08-25-2006 11:47 In the case of My club, I merged all the staff groups into the land holders group, and kept the VIP group separate still. By keeping the VIPs separate, they are still able to get group notices and IMs for events, and they don't hear the group IMs and notices that are meant for staff only. It's still 2 groups, but better than the 5 we had before _____________________ Owner of Love's Retreat, a mountain resort with a shopping mall, dance club/lodge, and The Chained Tail Dungeon.
Karsten Rutledge Linux User Join date: 8 Feb 2005 Posts: 841	08-25-2006 12:40 From: grumble Loudon Like many clubs we have several groups. Security, Vendors, VIP’s, ect… With the new group system we can combine all those into one group and give our security the power to return objects. The problem comes into how to actually do it. Option 1: Merging land and objects into VIP group. The Vip group has the most members so it would make sense to merge everyone into that group, however the land is cut up into pieces and trying to transfer the land piece by piece will cause pieces of land to go over their prim budget. I cannot merge the land since the “extra Prim” land is not adjacent. My only option is to pick up the high prim items and then do the transfer. Then there is the whole issue of going around and setting the new objects to the new group since they are only “set to group” and not deeded. Option 2: Trying to invite the 100’s of VIP members into the new group. Currently I do not see any way to cut and paste their names to invite them to the new group. And then there is the whole issue of how many people will accept the invite. I would have to first eject them from the old group in order to ensure they have space in their profile for the new group since multiple clubs may be doing this at the same time. In the end this will lead to less groups and a more manageable club, the question is how to convert over to it. This may help you a bit: You can combine parcels into a single parcel even if they are not connected in any fashion (must be in the same sim of course, if they're not the prim counts aren't helping you anyway.) Just select across any land that's not yours so that all your land is in the selection box somehow and hit Join, it should just merge all your parcels together. I've done this before with land on two sides of a Linden road. _____________________ New products, updates, rants, randomness. Addictive high-quality games for sale: Greedy Greedy, On-A-Roll, Mancala and the newly released Khet laser strategy game.
grumble Loudon A Little bit a lion Join date: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 612	08-25-2006 20:45 Thanks for the sugestions. I like the idea of keeping the VIP list seperate and that also meens I don't have to transfer the land. Thanks for the info on the join parcel. I hadn't tried that since my client normaly isn't set to see that far. (It's on the other side of the same sim)

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