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So there was a grey goo attack last night?

Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 08:16
I totally missed it. I noticed at one point assets weren't being served properly, so I just logged out and came back in a few minutes.

Can anyone brief me on the nature of the attack? Did the grey goo fence do anything to impede it?
Burke Prefect
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06-07-2006 08:18
Nature: self-spawning items
Owner: Day One Noob
Fence: Didn't Appear To Do Shit

But the grid didn't go down. So I guess that's something.

Where is 'Delete All Items Owned By x'?
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Tsukasa Karuna
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06-07-2006 08:22
A question worth asking.. is there an outside group (Myg0t, something awful, etc etc) that really hates us and are sending newbs into the game with the greifer's toolbox?
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Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 08:29
From: Tsukasa Karuna
A question worth asking.. is there an outside group (Myg0t, something awful, etc etc) that really hates us and are sending newbs into the game with the greifer's toolbox?



We know the answer to this, don't we? At least with respect to Something Asinine.
Ordinal Malaprop
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06-07-2006 08:29
Grey lilies apparently.
http://www.secretlair.com/index.php?/clickableculture/entry/rogue_lily_disrupts_second_life_service/
Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 08:40
ah...so it was an accident? how exactly was that motive assessed?
Cindy Claveau
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06-07-2006 09:25
From: Tsukasa Karuna
A question worth asking.. is there an outside group (Myg0t, something awful, etc etc) that really hates us and are sending newbs into the game with the greifer's toolbox?

I think it's just the nature of the world we're living in now. I was so bored last night I logged out early, so I missed any griefer attack. Instead, I got up this morning to discover that my car had been broken into overnight and I'm faced with hundreds of dollars in repairs -- and the vandals didn't even take anything.

Our children reflect and magnify the values of their elders. We've gone from a day when crime was only a major concern in crowded, poverty-infected inner cities to today, when cars are hijacked everywhere, music is blasted on the streets regardless of who it irritates, home and auto security businesses are a multi-million dollar industry, computer viruses are the #1 threat to our home PCs and we can't even let our kids walk to school without us.

Griefers in a virtual world aren't the problem, they're a symptom of a larger societal ill, I think. Anonymity just lets them crawl out from under their rocks.
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Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 09:49
From: Cindy Claveau
I think it's just the nature of the world we're living in now.



I dunno about this....wasn't it Cicero who said:


O tempora, o mores! Senatus haec intellegit. consul videt; hic tamen vivit. Vivit? immo vero etiam in senatum venit, fit publici consilii particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem fortes viri satis facere rei publicae videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitemus. Ad mortem te, Catilina, duci iussu consulis iam pridem oportebat, in te conferri pestem, quam tu in nos [omnes iam diu] machinaris.
Squeedoo Shirakawa
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06-07-2006 09:51
From: Luciftias Neurocam
I dunno about this....wasn't it Cicero who said:


O tempora, o mores! Senatus haec intellegit. consul videt; hic tamen vivit. Vivit? immo vero etiam in senatum venit, fit publici consilii particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem fortes viri satis facere rei publicae videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitemus. Ad mortem te, Catilina, duci iussu consulis iam pridem oportebat, in te conferri pestem, quam tu in nos [omnes iam diu] machinaris.


In English! >:(
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06-07-2006 10:11
From: Cindy Claveau
I think it's just the nature of the world we're living in now. I was so bored last night I logged out early, so I missed any griefer attack. Instead, I got up this morning to discover that my car had been broken into overnight and I'm faced with hundreds of dollars in repairs -- and the vandals didn't even take anything.

Our children reflect and magnify the values of their elders. We've gone from a day when crime was only a major concern in crowded, poverty-infected inner cities to today, when cars are hijacked everywhere, music is blasted on the streets regardless of who it irritates, home and auto security businesses are a multi-million dollar industry, computer viruses are the #1 threat to our home PCs and we can't even let our kids walk to school without us.

Griefers in a virtual world aren't the problem, they're a symptom of a larger societal ill, I think. Anonymity just lets them crawl out from under their rocks.


I love today's values.

They didn't have SUVs and Starbucks back in the '50s.
Phedre Aquitaine
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06-07-2006 10:14
From: Jamie Bergman
I love today's values.

They didn't have SUVs and Starbucks back in the '50s.


May someday you be as monetarily bankrupt as you are mentally, ethically, and emotionally, darling.
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06-07-2006 10:19
From: Jamie Bergman
I love today's values.

They didn't have SUVs and Starbucks back in the '50s.


Question, is Jamie the chick that sells freebie's?
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06-07-2006 10:20
From: Jamie Bergman
I love today's values.

They didn't have SUVs and Starbucks back in the '50s.


Au contrair

Introduced way back in 1936, the Chevrolet (and GMC) Suburban was based on a commercial panel truck, but instead of having a huge, windowless cargo area there was a large passenger compartment. Basically truck-based station wagons, the early Suburbans had two doors (not counting the two-piece tailgate) and three rows of seats that seated up to eight passengers. The most common powerplant of the day, an inline six cylinder engine, powered the Suburban. With but 90 horsepower, the 217 cubic-inch six had its work cut out. Minor changes to the facade carried the first-generation Suburban through 1940.


http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=46027
Surreal Farber
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06-07-2006 10:20
I remember the first line. Oh the times, Oh the manners (or maybe customs or morals). Not sure what Catilina plotting to overthrow the Roman Senate has to do with this, but *shrug*
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Ralph Doctorow
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Well, I don't know about that ...
06-07-2006 10:33
From: Jamie Bergman
I love today's values.

They didn't have SUVs and Starbucks back in the '50s.


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Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 10:40
From: Surreal Farber
I remember the first line. Oh the times, Oh the manners (or maybe customs or morals). Not sure what Catilina plotting to overthrow the Roman Senate has to do with this, but *shrug*



You've read the whole of In Catalinam, I suppose? Because if you had you'd know Cicero spends a long time in the first speech listing all the ways in which society has gone downhill.

Hence "O the time, O the morals"...


so *shrugs back* ;)
Luciftias Neurocam
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06-07-2006 10:47
From: Squeedoo Shirakawa
In English! >:(


It's not that important. It's a complaint that, in olden times, the senate wouldn't have tolerated the kind of crap (Really very minor) that the youth of Rome were perpetuating during Cicero's day. Cicero ties the Catalinarian conspiracy into this general lawlessness, and spends a good many orations linking Cataline to social decline.

People use the phrase "O the time, O the morals" these days to indicate that the person speaking is hearkening back to a past that never existed.

Here's as good a translation as I can do without my handy dandy dictionary:

Oh these times we live in! Oh these (scandalous) morals, these customs! The senate knows it. The consul sees it. And yet HE (Cataline) REMAINS ALIVE! The effrontery! Alive? Not only this, but he comes into the senate, takes part in our public debate, all the while marking each of us for death with his eyes. However, we brave men must satisfy the things(laws?) of the public if we are to avoid these outrages and traps. You should have been put to death long ago for your many crimes and plots.
Surreal Farber
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06-07-2006 10:49
I read it ~ 30 years ago while taking Latin. Doesn't every generation complain about society going downhill and youth running wild? My point being that it's about point of view. Personally, you couldn't drag me kicking and screaming into the 50s unless it's the 2050s.
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Cindy Claveau
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06-07-2006 11:22
From: Luciftias Neurocam
It's not that important. It's a complaint that, in olden times, the senate wouldn't have tolerated the kind of crap (Really very minor) that the youth of Rome were perpetuating during Cicero's day. Cicero ties the Catalinarian conspiracy into this general lawlessness, and spends a good many orations linking Cataline to social decline.

Of course, in Cicero's case, he turned out to be right about Rome :)
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Ralph Doctorow
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Well....
06-07-2006 13:16
From: Cindy Claveau
Of course, in Cicero's case, he turned out to be right about Rome :)

Well, we (the US natch) should be so lucky!

If you count Byzantium, the Roman empire dominated the western world for more or less the next thousand years and was a player for about 1500.
Aliasi Stonebender
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06-07-2006 13:28
From: Cindy Claveau
I think it's just the nature of the world we're living in now. I was so bored last night I logged out early, so I missed any griefer attack. Instead, I got up this morning to discover that my car had been broken into overnight and I'm faced with hundreds of dollars in repairs -- and the vandals didn't even take anything.

Our children reflect and magnify the values of their elders. We've gone from a day when crime was only a major concern in crowded, poverty-infected inner cities to today, when cars are hijacked everywhere, music is blasted on the streets regardless of who it irritates, home and auto security businesses are a multi-million dollar industry, computer viruses are the #1 threat to our home PCs and we can't even let our kids walk to school without us.

Griefers in a virtual world aren't the problem, they're a symptom of a larger societal ill, I think. Anonymity just lets them crawl out from under their rocks.


... and that's why the crime rate in the US has been on a consistent decline!
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Squeedoo Shirakawa
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06-07-2006 14:31
*hugs Luciftias* Thanks!

But, so far, my SL has been pretty much griefer free. I'll bring out my wooden "throne of mercy" (it's a prim "chair";) just in case, though. :3
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Tsukasa Karuna
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06-07-2006 20:40
what i meant by that question is, this seems to be an organized bunch of attacks. Where are the day old accounts getting their grey goo replicators?
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Klintel Kiesler
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06-07-2006 20:51
From: Tsukasa Karuna
what i meant by that question is, this seems to be an organized bunch of attacks. Where are the day old accounts getting their grey goo replicators?


At the moment there's nothing stopping a day-old-account from doing something very similar. This attack was different, although the account was only a week old, the profile looked like a user intent on staying, however profiles can be deceiving. Although it appears to be an accident, I'm glad the Lindens took the right direction in banning the user and eliminating the floating pest in a timely fashion.