Second Life Forums Archive - LifeCycle v1.0: First Life Locomotion in Second Life

qDot Bunnyhug

Robot Breaker

Join date: 19 Jul 2005

Posts: 63

10-03-2005 09:51

http://www.nonpolynomial.com/content/2005/09/lifecycle.php

Second Life can be an incredibly immersive world, seeing that it is based solely on user created content. However, there is only so much immersion that can happen through a keyboard/mouse control scheme. There are many different ways to control vehicles in real life, such as steering wheels, pedals, handle bars, and sticks, just to name a few. Implementing these control structures in Second Life allows users to get closer to the virtual world by giving them mechanisms they are familiar with in the real world.

Biking is the first of these controls we have decided to implement, because it is so ubiquitous. The bicycle is used around the world for cheap, self-powered transportation, and has embedded itself into many interesting contextual situations. Romantic ideas such as biking through the park or using paddle boats, the thrill of the Tour De France, the metaphor of training wheels, are all based on bicycles. Using the LifeCycle, users will now be able to move themselves from place to place in the Second Life world using a stationary exercise bike.

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So it's not quite as spiffy as Iron Perth's setup (Iron, you've gotta write that thing up sometime, I loved your implementation), but that's what v1.0 is for, I guess. Definitely need to increase the encoder resolution and put real handlebars on the thing. Still, it's fun to ride through the world.

Have people already made tour guide scripts, i.e. scripts that will set way points from one place to another? I'd like to make walking and biking paths through Second Life, so you could just bike/walk and look around without actually having to worry about turning/navigating.

Next up, treadmills!

Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

10-03-2005 10:06

Whoa, I want one of those

Imagine setting up a whole gym with these... and making games in SL that take advantage of this input!
Collaborative, massively-multiuser online weight loss

Sign me up!

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qDot Bunnyhug

Robot Breaker

Join date: 19 Jul 2005

Posts: 63

10-03-2005 10:16

Well, there's already personal trainers in SL, so we're certainly one step closer...

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Beryl Greenacre

Big Scaredy-Baby

Join date: 24 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,312

10-03-2005 10:19

Whoa, this is amazing! However, I seriously doubt my technical ability to integrate my SL with various bits of exercise equipment. I'm sure I could get my (engineer) husband to help me figure it out... but for the average non-techie layperson, is this do-able?

Kudos to you for your innovative thinking!

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Ingrid Ingersoll

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Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

10-03-2005 10:22

WOW! I'd love to jog around the grid! Very cool stuff.

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Csven Concord

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Join date: 19 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,015

10-03-2005 10:33

Cool little rig. Nice job.

Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

10-03-2005 11:08

Where can I buy one ?

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Iron Perth

Registered User

Join date: 9 Mar 2005

Posts: 802

10-03-2005 11:18

qDot, you rock my world!

Very cool .. all I can say is bump, bump, bump.

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Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

10-03-2005 11:21

Very kewl! I love to see external hardware coming implimented in SL!

Have you seen the biofeedback device (the lightstome that comes with the Journey To Wild Divine game) in SL yet? Komuso of the InnerLife Project (external forums / SL Forums ) has implimented an alpha version of the system.

We have been experimenting with different ways to visualize the incoming data. Its a ton of pretty particle fun.

-Ghoti

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qDot Bunnyhug

Robot Breaker

Join date: 19 Jul 2005

Posts: 63

10-03-2005 11:52

Beryl: It depends on the bike you're using, and what kinda of information you can relay from it. My ultimate goal here is to set up a suite of open source programs tools relating to fitness and exercise. Part of that will be a database of how to use various kinds of equipment for tasks like this.

Or you could just throw down $2500US+ on a NexFit

http://www.nexfit.com/

Ghoti: I really, really, reallllllllly want a LifeStone, but it doesn't fit in my current budget of $0. Once I get an extra couple of hundred kickin around, it's the first thing on my list.

Maybe I'll get one for christmas.

Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

10-03-2005 12:11

Kewl

Yeah, its not exactly cheap at $160 (game plus USB biofeedback device) but its definately a hoot to use.

Personally, I am just an enthusiastic alpha tester (though starting to make my own uses of it in SL with the help of my friend Leena) and do not know anything about the backend that we're using. Komuso is our programmer, and I'm sure he has tons he could say about it... not that I've seen him in world for awhile now. :/

Anywho, drop me a message in world some time if you'd like to see what we're up to.

Wish I had $2500US+ for a NexFit.

-Ghoti

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SuezanneC Baskerville

Forums Rock!

Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

Beware of potential health hazards.

10-19-2005 18:20

From: Product Documentation

Future versions of the project will make the Second Life Bike explode and throw the Av 10 sims over if they drop below this speed.

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Enabran Templar

Capitalist Pig

Join date: 26 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,506

10-19-2005 18:25

How did I not see this before? Dude, qDot, your geek cred is so through the roof now. I tip my hat, sir!

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LifeCycle v1.0: First Life Locomotion in Second Life
qDot Bunnyhug Robot Breaker Join date: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 63	10-03-2005 09:51 http://www.nonpolynomial.com/content/2005/09/lifecycle.php Second Life can be an incredibly immersive world, seeing that it is based solely on user created content. However, there is only so much immersion that can happen through a keyboard/mouse control scheme. There are many different ways to control vehicles in real life, such as steering wheels, pedals, handle bars, and sticks, just to name a few. Implementing these control structures in Second Life allows users to get closer to the virtual world by giving them mechanisms they are familiar with in the real world. Biking is the first of these controls we have decided to implement, because it is so ubiquitous. The bicycle is used around the world for cheap, self-powered transportation, and has embedded itself into many interesting contextual situations. Romantic ideas such as biking through the park or using paddle boats, the thrill of the Tour De France, the metaphor of training wheels, are all based on bicycles. Using the LifeCycle, users will now be able to move themselves from place to place in the Second Life world using a stationary exercise bike. --- So it's not quite as spiffy as Iron Perth's setup (Iron, you've gotta write that thing up sometime, I loved your implementation), but that's what v1.0 is for, I guess. Definitely need to increase the encoder resolution and put real handlebars on the thing. Still, it's fun to ride through the world. Have people already made tour guide scripts, i.e. scripts that will set way points from one place to another? I'd like to make walking and biking paths through Second Life, so you could just bike/walk and look around without actually having to worry about turning/navigating. Next up, treadmills!
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	10-03-2005 10:06 Whoa, I want one of those Imagine setting up a whole gym with these... and making games in SL that take advantage of this input! Collaborative, massively-multiuser online weight loss Sign me up! _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
qDot Bunnyhug Robot Breaker Join date: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 63	10-03-2005 10:16 Well, there's already personal trainers in SL, so we're certainly one step closer... /invalid_link.html
Beryl Greenacre Big Scaredy-Baby Join date: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,312	10-03-2005 10:19 Whoa, this is amazing! However, I seriously doubt my technical ability to integrate my SL with various bits of exercise equipment. I'm sure I could get my (engineer) husband to help me figure it out... but for the average non-techie layperson, is this do-able? Kudos to you for your innovative thinking! _____________________ Swell Second Life: Menswear by Beryl Greenacre Miramare 105, 82/ Aqua 192, 112/ Image Reflections Design, Freedom 121, 121
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	10-03-2005 10:22 WOW! I'd love to jog around the grid! Very cool stuff. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	10-03-2005 10:33 Cool little rig. Nice job.
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	10-03-2005 11:08 Where can I buy one ? _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Iron Perth Registered User Join date: 9 Mar 2005 Posts: 802	10-03-2005 11:18 qDot, you rock my world! Very cool .. all I can say is bump, bump, bump. _____________________ http://ironperth.com - Games for SecondLife and more.
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	10-03-2005 11:21 Very kewl! I love to see external hardware coming implimented in SL! Have you seen the biofeedback device (the lightstome that comes with the Journey To Wild Divine game) in SL yet? Komuso of the InnerLife Project (external forums / SL Forums ) has implimented an alpha version of the system. We have been experimenting with different ways to visualize the incoming data. Its a ton of pretty particle fun. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
qDot Bunnyhug Robot Breaker Join date: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 63	10-03-2005 11:52 Beryl: It depends on the bike you're using, and what kinda of information you can relay from it. My ultimate goal here is to set up a suite of open source programs tools relating to fitness and exercise. Part of that will be a database of how to use various kinds of equipment for tasks like this. Or you could just throw down $2500US+ on a NexFit http://www.nexfit.com/ Ghoti: I really, really, reallllllllly want a LifeStone, but it doesn't fit in my current budget of $0. Once I get an extra couple of hundred kickin around, it's the first thing on my list. Maybe I'll get one for christmas.
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	10-03-2005 12:11 Kewl Yeah, its not exactly cheap at $160 (game plus USB biofeedback device) but its definately a hoot to use. Personally, I am just an enthusiastic alpha tester (though starting to make my own uses of it in SL with the help of my friend Leena) and do not know anything about the backend that we're using. Komuso is our programmer, and I'm sure he has tons he could say about it... not that I've seen him in world for awhile now. :/ Anywho, drop me a message in world some time if you'd like to see what we're up to. Wish I had $2500US+ for a NexFit. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	Beware of potential health hazards. 10-19-2005 18:20 From: Product Documentation Future versions of the project will make the Second Life Bike explode and throw the Av 10 sims over if they drop below this speed. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	10-19-2005 18:25 How did I not see this before? Dude, qDot, your geek cred is so through the roof now. I tip my hat, sir! _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?

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