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Red Mars

What?

Join date: 5 Feb 2004

Posts: 469

06-06-2006 11:09

Yes, without billing information required then certainly more underage hoodlums will logon. That will be exciting. Mayhem and griefing is always exciting, as is that question you'll always have to ask yourself .... "Oh crap, please please please, she's over 18 ... isn't she?"

Soleil Mirabeau

eh?

Join date: 6 Oct 2005

Posts: 995

06-06-2006 11:10

*goes on the prowl for young nubile men*

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Phedre Aquitaine

I am the zombie queen

Join date: 26 Jan 2006

Posts: 1,157

06-06-2006 11:10

From: Red Mars

Yes, without billing information required then certainly more underage hoodlums will logon. That will be exciting. Mayhem and griefing is always exciting, as is that question you'll always have to ask yourself .... "Oh crap, please please please, she's over 18 ... isn't she?"

*chuckles*

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everyone loves phedre
(excluding chickens), its in the TOS

Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

06-06-2006 11:16

From: Soleil Mirabeau

*goes on the prowl for young nubile men*

urbancougar.com

-Ghoti

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Zalandria Zaius

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jan 2004

Posts: 277

huh??

06-06-2006 11:16

I have no idea what's to be excited about..

They must be seriously bored down there at LL..

Soleil Mirabeau

eh?

Join date: 6 Oct 2005

Posts: 995

06-06-2006 11:17

already there.

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nimrod Yaffle

Cavemen are people too...

Join date: 15 Nov 2004

Posts: 3,146

06-06-2006 11:51

How else do you think they'd get to their 1 million mark?

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"People can cry much easier than they can change."
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Yumi Murakami

DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!

Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

06-06-2006 11:52

And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money.

This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.)

Cocoanut Cookie

Registered User

Join date: 26 Jan 2006

Posts: 1,741

06-06-2006 11:59

From: Yumi Murakami

And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money.

This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.)

Yes, I definitely noticed that. I'm keeping track.

All that's left now, I believe, are: (1) The starting pay for premiums, (2) the bonus for premiums who get others to go premium (we still have that, don't we?), (3) the stipend for premiums, (4) the stipend for old basics, and (5) the pay for conducting educational classes.

As far as this new plan for basic memberships goes, I am thinking we will get a WHOLE lot of new people (without credit cards, maybe), with absolutely ZERO money and absolutely NOTHING to do . . .

. . . which is your standard recipe for griefers. A recipe that might even turn your average non-griefer into a griefer (or at least a nuisance), just to have something to do.

coco

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Starax Statosky

Unregistered User

Join date: 23 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,099

06-06-2006 12:27

I hate having to register for stuff!. Some days it feels like you can't do a damn thing on the net without having to tell some site about your life story and intimate details.

Registration Form

Name:

Address:

Favorite colour:

Have you ever killed somebody?:

Penis Length:

Last time you ate snot?:

What are you looking at?

Nice day, isn't it?:

Do you want a thump in the head?:

Next page:

Terms and agreement

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah bla h blah blah blah

Next page:

Thank you, you have now registered to move your mouse pointer.

ARRrrrRRrrRGH!!!!

I say they should let people connect whenever they want to. But maybe we need better anti-asshole measures putting in place first. Afterall, we don't have to register to use the internet. Although it would be so annoying if people could push us around while we was browsing a website.

* Takes deep breaths *

Dismay Wilde

Bleed Designs Owner

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 1,771

06-06-2006 12:45

you forgot one!

-Would you like fries with that? YUS!

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Dianne Mechanique

Back from the Dead

Join date: 28 Mar 2005

Posts: 2,648

06-06-2006 13:19

This idea seems to be yet another classic example of LL doing something that will have a huge adverse affect on the community because of a perceived need to attend to an "economic" problem.

Money is in the drivers seat. The effects of these changes on the people or the communities ...

Well who gives a sh*t about that?

Even if it causes waves of greifers, grid attacks, whatever.

As long as that virtual dress costs $0.32 US instead of $0.45 (that's the important thing)!

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black
art furniture & classic clothing
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Black in Neufreistadt
Black @ ONE
Black @ www.SLBoutique.com

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Yumi Murakami

DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!

Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

06-06-2006 13:21

From: Dianne Mechanique

Even if it causes waves of greifers, grid attacks, whatever.

As long as that virtual dress costs $0.32 US instead of $0.45 (that's the important thing)!

Actually, it's "as long as it costs $0.45 instead of $0.32".

Eponine Basiat

Deer in the Headlights

Join date: 27 Apr 2006

Posts: 121

06-06-2006 13:22

Are there any other safeguards for age verification out there?

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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

06-06-2006 13:47

Well, I haven't seen the 'new' form yet. What's up as of right now is still the old one.

I don't see how this can work, as far as the age verification goes. Any on-line age verification systems I am aware of ALL use the posession of some sort of credit card as their proof.

And how will they tell a "first time free" account from any other alt request? E-mail address? I can generate a thousand of them in a heartbeat, all of which will work. IP Address? MAC Address if the network card? Both easily averted and/or shielded and/or constantly changing due to ISP access, firewalls and home routers.

I have to agree that I fear this is just going to open the floodgates to griefers who will use the new alts as completely disposable accounts, and to underage twits who 'wanna swim in the adult pool'.

In all fairness, yes, a lot of people will get a free account, look around a bit, and decide it's worth staying and paying for. At least worth purchasing some Lindens for. But to do that, they still have to provide a credit card or Paypal somewhere, which blows away the 'get the ones who don't want to give out credit card info' argument.

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Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.

MenuBar Memorial

WaterMoon Artist

Join date: 20 Nov 2005

Posts: 214

>yawn<

06-06-2006 13:54

That has to be the least exciting announcement I've ever read. Evar. In my entire life.

WTF are they smokin' there?

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

06-06-2006 14:24

You know, you'd think they'd change the confirmation email you get, how out of date is this:

From: someone

You’ve registered for a Second Life Premium Account with the account name
"******** *******" and you now have unlimited access to Second Life - its
building and scripting tools, events, and land auctions. Your Premium
Second Life Account benefits include a L$1000 bonus, a higher weekly
allowance and the ability to own land on which you can build, entertain
and live.

If you haven't yet done so, be sure to download and install the Second
Life client software. You can always download the latest version on our
website at http://secondlife.com/download.

Your account begins with a free 7-day trial, during which your Premium
benefits are not yet active. In order to enjoy your Premium account
benefits immediately, or to cancel if you decide you don't want to join,
change your account status at http://secondlife.com/account. At the end of
this trial period, if you choose not to cancel, you will be charged $9.95
for the Basic Plan you signed up for at registration. If you cancel before
your trial expires, you will not be billed.

And yes, the new sign-ups page is available and I just got that back in response to opening an account. Surely they should have changed that by now - I mean, it's even out of date for how it was before this change.

PS> Hold on, maybe this is correct and these accounts are only a 7-day trial? Never saw that mentioned elsewhere.

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Miriel Enfield

Prim Junkie

Join date: 12 Dec 2005

Posts: 389

06-06-2006 14:27

From: Yumi Murakami

And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money.

This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.)

I noticed that, too, and don't like it. Though I don't know a way around it if LL wants to allow basic accounts without a credit card.

Still, it makes me want to get a money tree or something else to provide funds to newbies.

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Exiting registration changes!
Red Mars What? Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 469	06-06-2006 11:09 Yes, without billing information required then certainly more underage hoodlums will logon. That will be exciting. Mayhem and griefing is always exciting, as is that question you'll always have to ask yourself .... "Oh crap, please please please, she's over 18 ... isn't she?"
Soleil Mirabeau eh? Join date: 6 Oct 2005 Posts: 995	06-06-2006 11:10 goes on the prowl for young nubile men _____________________
Phedre Aquitaine I am the zombie queen Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,157	06-06-2006 11:10 From: Red Mars Yes, without billing information required then certainly more underage hoodlums will logon. That will be exciting. Mayhem and griefing is always exciting, as is that question you'll always have to ask yourself .... "Oh crap, please please please, she's over 18 ... isn't she?" chuckles _____________________ From: Billybob Goodliffe everyone loves phedre (excluding chickens), its in the TOS
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	06-06-2006 11:16 From: Soleil Mirabeau goes on the prowl for young nubile men urbancougar.com -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Zalandria Zaius Registered User Join date: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 277	huh?? 06-06-2006 11:16 I have no idea what's to be excited about.. They must be seriously bored down there at LL..
Soleil Mirabeau eh? Join date: 6 Oct 2005 Posts: 995	06-06-2006 11:17 already there. _____________________
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	06-06-2006 11:51 How else do you think they'd get to their 1 million mark? _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	06-06-2006 11:52 And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money. This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.)
Cocoanut Cookie Registered User Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,741	06-06-2006 11:59 From: Yumi Murakami And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money. This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.) Yes, I definitely noticed that. I'm keeping track. All that's left now, I believe, are: (1) The starting pay for premiums, (2) the bonus for premiums who get others to go premium (we still have that, don't we?), (3) the stipend for premiums, (4) the stipend for old basics, and (5) the pay for conducting educational classes. As far as this new plan for basic memberships goes, I am thinking we will get a WHOLE lot of new people (without credit cards, maybe), with absolutely ZERO money and absolutely NOTHING to do . . . . . . which is your standard recipe for griefers. A recipe that might even turn your average non-griefer into a griefer (or at least a nuisance), just to have something to do. coco _____________________
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	06-06-2006 12:27 I hate having to register for stuff!. Some days it feels like you can't do a damn thing on the net without having to tell some site about your life story and intimate details. Registration Form Name: Address: Favorite colour: Have you ever killed somebody?: Penis Length: Last time you ate snot?: What are you looking at? Nice day, isn't it?: Do you want a thump in the head?: Next page: Terms and agreement blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bla h blah blah blah Next page: Thank you, you have now registered to move your mouse pointer. ARRrrrRRrrRGH!!!! I say they should let people connect whenever they want to. But maybe we need better anti-asshole measures putting in place first. Afterall, we don't have to register to use the internet. Although it would be so annoying if people could push us around while we was browsing a website. * Takes deep breaths *
Dismay Wilde Bleed Designs Owner Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,771	06-06-2006 12:45 you forgot one! -Would you like fries with that? YUS! _____________________
Dianne Mechanique Back from the Dead Join date: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2,648	06-06-2006 13:19 This idea seems to be yet another classic example of LL doing something that will have a huge adverse affect on the community because of a perceived need to attend to an "economic" problem. Money is in the drivers seat. The effects of these changes on the people or the communities ... Well who gives a sh*t about that? Even if it causes waves of greifers, grid attacks, whatever. As long as that virtual dress costs $0.32 US instead of $0.45 (that's the important thing)! _____________________ . black art furniture & classic clothing =================== Black in Neufreistadt Black @ ONE Black @ www.SLBoutique.com .
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	06-06-2006 13:21 From: Dianne Mechanique Even if it causes waves of greifers, grid attacks, whatever. As long as that virtual dress costs $0.32 US instead of $0.45 (that's the important thing)! Actually, it's "as long as it costs $0.45 instead of $0.32".
Eponine Basiat Deer in the Headlights Join date: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 121	06-06-2006 13:22 Are there any other safeguards for age verification out there? _____________________ The forums are really "SL Work Edition" for me. All the drama and lag of SL in an innovative 2D client. Well behaved women rarely make history. -Laurel Ulrich
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	06-06-2006 13:47 Well, I haven't seen the 'new' form yet. What's up as of right now is still the old one. I don't see how this can work, as far as the age verification goes. Any on-line age verification systems I am aware of ALL use the posession of some sort of credit card as their proof. And how will they tell a "first time free" account from any other alt request? E-mail address? I can generate a thousand of them in a heartbeat, all of which will work. IP Address? MAC Address if the network card? Both easily averted and/or shielded and/or constantly changing due to ISP access, firewalls and home routers. I have to agree that I fear this is just going to open the floodgates to griefers who will use the new alts as completely disposable accounts, and to underage twits who 'wanna swim in the adult pool'. In all fairness, yes, a lot of people will get a free account, look around a bit, and decide it's worth staying and paying for. At least worth purchasing some Lindens for. But to do that, they still have to provide a credit card or Paypal somewhere, which blows away the 'get the ones who don't want to give out credit card info' argument. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
MenuBar Memorial WaterMoon Artist Join date: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 214	>yawn< 06-06-2006 13:54 That has to be the least exciting announcement I've ever read. Evar. In my entire life. WTF are they smokin' there?
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	06-06-2006 14:24 You know, you'd think they'd change the confirmation email you get, how out of date is this: From: someone You’ve registered for a Second Life Premium Account with the account name "****** *****" and you now have unlimited access to Second Life - its building and scripting tools, events, and land auctions. Your Premium Second Life Account benefits include a L$1000 bonus, a higher weekly allowance and the ability to own land on which you can build, entertain and live. If you haven't yet done so, be sure to download and install the Second Life client software. You can always download the latest version on our website at http://secondlife.com/download. Your account begins with a free 7-day trial, during which your Premium benefits are not yet active. In order to enjoy your Premium account benefits immediately, or to cancel if you decide you don't want to join, change your account status at http://secondlife.com/account. At the end of this trial period, if you choose not to cancel, you will be charged $9.95 for the Basic Plan you signed up for at registration. If you cancel before your trial expires, you will not be billed. And yes, the new sign-ups page is available and I just got that back in response to opening an account. Surely they should have changed that by now - I mean, it's even out of date for how it was before this change. PS> Hold on, maybe this is correct and these accounts are only a 7-day trial? Never saw that mentioned elsewhere. _____________________
Miriel Enfield Prim Junkie Join date: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 389	06-06-2006 14:27 From: Yumi Murakami And the fact that they also "sneaked in" the removal of the L$250 starting money. This matters, folks. There's a lovely display of L$1 avatars at NCI for new people to pick up. Until they've taken out the credit card, they now can't do that. They can't even upload a single texture. (Barring camping or trees, of course, but they're already mostly picked dry.) I noticed that, too, and don't like it. Though I don't know a way around it if LL wants to allow basic accounts without a credit card. Still, it makes me want to get a money tree or something else to provide funds to newbies. _____________________

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