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VzNevada Menoptra

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Join date: 1 Nov 2005

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12-05-2005 02:51

I've noticed that someone has changed to a newer house in this area. I wonder if that's permitted there...I'd love to do the same. Anyone here who lives in Blumfield?

Lordfly Digeridoo

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12-05-2005 04:24

There are no rules in Blumfield. It's suburbia without the homeowner's association.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

12-05-2005 05:28

Yeah, put up some impeach bush signs. Maybe LL will get the message..

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Piccadilly Metropolitan

Bendy bus

Join date: 2 Dec 2005

Posts: 100

12-05-2005 05:32

No matter what the spirit of a certain community is, in SL the sprawl will always prevail without intervention by Linden. It'd be nice if people could just get along and keep their builds in a certain sim in keeping with the desires of the majority of residents there, but it'll never happen - there are too many money-men (and women) and not enough community spirit.

P2P teleporting will cause the situation to deteriorate yet further.

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

12-05-2005 05:42

Well, at some point, LL is going to crack and let in some zoning functionaility.

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Piccadilly Metropolitan

Bendy bus

Join date: 2 Dec 2005

Posts: 100

12-05-2005 05:45

It'd be nice to have zoning on land actually owned by residents, rather than the rather rubbish situation we have now where Anshe is in charge of it!

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

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12-05-2005 05:46

Heh heh, well, someone is going to manage it.

I suspect Anshe is probably among the least annoying that you're going to find.

Generally, Zoning by business owners is probably best because they have something to lose if they start pissing people off en masse. They also have a reason to keep working at it.

People without a financial stake will either vanish unexpectedly or piss people off randomly.

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Margaret Mfume

I.C.

Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 2,492

12-05-2005 06:03

Let's try this. Hold off a bit before making any decisions. I'll let you live on a 512 section of my land for a week for free. It's a beautiful sim, low lag, very nice neighborhood. Then perhaps we can find another 512 for you to try for a week. Anyone know of a nice 512 huddled in the shadows of a laggy build and maybe an anti bush sign or two? Or maybe some rotating art would be a special treat. Afterwards we can sit down and talk about monthly fees and the price of land in my nice sim. Some land just went up for sale there for over $10 per sm. Who knows if it will sell at that price, maybe by then you can get a better deal, like maybe $8-9 per sm, if it's still available after our experiment.

Please understand that this is LL's first attempt to provide an opportunity for a self zoned sim. Proceed with your plans for remodelling but please consider your area in the process. I am thinking you're just wanting to downsize primwise because, as indicated in your other thread, your house is 64 prims which is very high for a 512 plot. So, consider this more of a cautionary tale about the land of possibilites that SL is.

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Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

12-05-2005 06:57

From: blaze Spinnaker

People without a financial stake will either vanish unexpectedly or piss people off randomly.

Homeowners Associations. Shudder.

Cocoanut Koala

Coco's Cottages

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 7,903

12-05-2005 07:07

They have a homeowners association in Blumfield. And I think they can do it!

Of course, there will likely be one or more who don't participate and may in fact go purposely against the agreements made by others.

But that wouldn't mean failure! It would mean only that not 100% of the residents would agree to abide by it. Only 80%, or 95%, or 60%! (One hopes.)

That would then mean that 60% of the area is going along with the general idea, which is better than 0% due to NO general idea!

I think it will work out nicely this way, if they don't get too strict with their bylaws.

coco

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Patch Lamington

Blumfield SLuburban

Join date: 2 Nov 2005

Posts: 188

heh

12-09-2005 02:12

From: Argent Stonecutter

Homeowners Associations. Shudder.

thanks

we did start a residents association... for me, it seemed like the easiest way to get to know my neighbours.

But soon I'll be inviting people over for Sunday Lunch, and arranging rota's for the school run , and who takes little Stu to the ballgame

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VzNevada Menoptra Registered User Join date: 1 Nov 2005 Posts: 211	12-05-2005 02:51 I've noticed that someone has changed to a newer house in this area. I wonder if that's permitted there...I'd love to do the same. Anyone here who lives in Blumfield?
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	12-05-2005 04:24 There are no rules in Blumfield. It's suburbia without the homeowner's association. _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-05-2005 05:28 Yeah, put up some impeach bush signs. Maybe LL will get the message.. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Piccadilly Metropolitan Bendy bus Join date: 2 Dec 2005 Posts: 100	12-05-2005 05:32 No matter what the spirit of a certain community is, in SL the sprawl will always prevail without intervention by Linden. It'd be nice if people could just get along and keep their builds in a certain sim in keeping with the desires of the majority of residents there, but it'll never happen - there are too many money-men (and women) and not enough community spirit. P2P teleporting will cause the situation to deteriorate yet further.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-05-2005 05:42 Well, at some point, LL is going to crack and let in some zoning functionaility. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Piccadilly Metropolitan Bendy bus Join date: 2 Dec 2005 Posts: 100	12-05-2005 05:45 It'd be nice to have zoning on land actually owned by residents, rather than the rather rubbish situation we have now where Anshe is in charge of it!
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-05-2005 05:46 Heh heh, well, someone is going to manage it. I suspect Anshe is probably among the least annoying that you're going to find. Generally, Zoning by business owners is probably best because they have something to lose if they start pissing people off en masse. They also have a reason to keep working at it. People without a financial stake will either vanish unexpectedly or piss people off randomly. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Margaret Mfume I.C. Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,492	12-05-2005 06:03 Let's try this. Hold off a bit before making any decisions. I'll let you live on a 512 section of my land for a week for free. It's a beautiful sim, low lag, very nice neighborhood. Then perhaps we can find another 512 for you to try for a week. Anyone know of a nice 512 huddled in the shadows of a laggy build and maybe an anti bush sign or two? Or maybe some rotating art would be a special treat. Afterwards we can sit down and talk about monthly fees and the price of land in my nice sim. Some land just went up for sale there for over $10 per sm. Who knows if it will sell at that price, maybe by then you can get a better deal, like maybe $8-9 per sm, if it's still available after our experiment. Please understand that this is LL's first attempt to provide an opportunity for a self zoned sim. Proceed with your plans for remodelling but please consider your area in the process. I am thinking you're just wanting to downsize primwise because, as indicated in your other thread, your house is 64 prims which is very high for a 512 plot. So, consider this more of a cautionary tale about the land of possibilites that SL is. _____________________ hush
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	12-05-2005 06:57 From: blaze Spinnaker People without a financial stake will either vanish unexpectedly or piss people off randomly. Homeowners Associations. Shudder.
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 7,903	12-05-2005 07:07 They have a homeowners association in Blumfield. And I think they can do it! Of course, there will likely be one or more who don't participate and may in fact go purposely against the agreements made by others. But that wouldn't mean failure! It would mean only that not 100% of the residents would agree to abide by it. Only 80%, or 95%, or 60%! (One hopes.) That would then mean that 60% of the area is going along with the general idea, which is better than 0% due to NO general idea! I think it will work out nicely this way, if they don't get too strict with their bylaws. coco _____________________ VALENTINE BOUTIQUE at Coco's Cottages http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Patch Lamington Blumfield SLuburban Join date: 2 Nov 2005 Posts: 188	heh 12-09-2005 02:12 From: Argent Stonecutter Homeowners Associations. Shudder. thanks we did start a residents association... for me, it seemed like the easiest way to get to know my neighbours. But soon I'll be inviting people over for Sunday Lunch, and arranging rota's for the school run , and who takes little Stu to the ballgame _____________________ Blumfield - a regular everyday kind of 'burb in an irregular world. This notice brought to you by the Blumfield Visitors and Residents Bureau.