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Year Old Concerns

Please select the items you feel still need to be addressed.

General Platform Stability (1, 4, 6, 10)
29 (30.9%)

Inventory Loss & Recovery (2, 3)
16 (17.0%)

Unreliable Billing (5)
5 (5.3%)

ATI Support (7)
9 (9.6%)

LL Business Planning & Projection (8)
12 (12.8%)

Facilitation of IP Rights (9)
23 (24.5%)

Total votes: 94
Khamon Fate
fategardens.net
Join date: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 4,177
12-01-2005 07:08
From Schwanson's posting in this thread dated 12/30/04, which of these items do you feel are still concerns of the population and need to be addressed by LL ASAP?

From: Schwanson
1. Even after a year and a half of opening Second Life is not stable enough to rely on being able to play every day.
2. Our inventories are transient data, its seriously questionable that your data can even be recovered from backups.
3. Even when support is friendly, helpful, and sympathetic to your plight, many hours of working on your issue still not recover data even when they can see it.
4. Second Life cannot even offer the stability level of $5.00 a month web hosting let alone the level of stability you would get from spending $400.00 a month like I do.
5. I have lost some level of trust in their ability to correctly bill me.
6. Promised upgrades to the existing system, such as increased communication with the outside world, improved physics engine, and improving client side lag have been pushed back again and again.
7. I still, a year and a half after the issue was first addressed, cannot use my top of the line ATI graphics card, one of the most popular graphic card companies in the world.
8. Linden favoritism, fickleness, and lack of a focused plan to deal with equipment disparity seem to have had an effect on attempts at commercial enterprise throughout Second Life, especially islands, and alienated a large portion of the population.
9. The promise of Intellectual Property rights for content creators has been trampled on. The lack of adequate controls to prevent reuse and with no ability to guarantee the safety and continued existence of player creations negates it. The glowing PR release that brought many of us into this world a year ago seems little more than that, a marketing scheme.
10. On top of all these issues Linden Lab has announced that they are now dividing their efforts and creating what amounts to a second program, catering to children without seeming care to the fact that the residents are fairly unanimous in the opinion that this world is still half baked.
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12-01-2005 07:09
From: Khamon Fate
From Schwanson's posting in this thread dated 12/30/04, which of these items do you feel is still a concern of the population and needs to be addressed by LL asap?


all but billing issues =(
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Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
12-01-2005 07:10
Sorry to tell ya, Khamon, but people really don't like you discussing old issues, even if they're still current and valid and being endlessly discussed time and again.

It disrupts their forum chi or something.

Can we talk about something more up to date?
Khamon Fate
fategardens.net
Join date: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 4,177
12-01-2005 07:18
From: Kris Ritter
Sorry to tell ya, Khamon, but people really don't like you discussing old issues, even if they're still current and valid and being endlessly discussed time and again.

It disrupts their forum chi or something.

Can we talk about something more up to date?

Sure we can. I have a new Swamp Tree for sale at Fate Gardens in Taber oh wait that's advertising. Okay Jarod told me other day that he was going to start oh wait that's talking about people. When html on a prim is fully implemented I think that oh wait that's old news and been talked to death.

Hm okay HAIR HAIR HAIR BLING BLING GUNS SLINGO HAIR HAIR MALL ZOOM VAROOM HAIR BLING HAIR HAIR SHOES1111111

Is that better?
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Annah Zamboni
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Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
12-01-2005 07:48
From: Kris Ritter
Sorry to tell ya, Khamon, but people really don't like you discussing old issues, even if they're still current and valid and being endlessly discussed time and again.

It disrupts their forum chi or something.

Can we talk about something more up to date?

Translation: I bumped a bunch of old threads to troll people. Now Im complaining that people dont like to discuss those issues to troll them even more.

Its a win-win situation Kris. :p
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
12-01-2005 07:54
From: Annah Zamboni
Translation: I bumped a bunch of old threads to troll people. Now Im complaining that people dont like to discuss those issues to troll them even more.

Its a win-win situation Kris. :p


Isn't it though? Everyone bitching about everyone else, and all because their personal opinion matters more than the next guys.

For every person that thinks necroposting is bad, there's another that thinks new thread after thread on the same subject over and over again is tedious too. But then opinions are like assholes, as they say.
Nebby Nelson
Prime Gibbage
Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 19
12-01-2005 07:59
The other issue I raised in the aforementioned thread related to my being restricted to teen grid (and logon curfew) despite being 18, apparently because someone under 18 logged in from my IP address... I was told that this is a policy set out in the Terms of Service. I'm curious whether anyone else here has had problems with this, because I would have thought it would happen to considerable number of users. I mean you must get families where the parents are robbed of the main grid once they make accounts for their kids. To me it seems like a totally ridiculous measure and I'd like to see it reviewed, hence my posting about it here. If I can resolve it with tech support then okay, but what is the point of it being there in the first place? Surely it can only increase tech support workload without making much difference to underage people accessing the main grid.
Those are my thoughts anyway, and that's the main reason I'm considering abandoning Second Life (which was, at least, relevant to the title of the previous thread).
Adam Zaius
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Join date: 9 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,483
12-01-2005 08:27
Heh, I'd say most of these issues are a thousand times better today than they were this time last year. The only thing I've had issues with in the last 6 months has been the billing system, but that seems to be improving as well.
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
12-01-2005 08:46
I tend to agree with Adam. I think things have improved in a lot of areas, and in general I think stability is better than it was. I think the biggest problem isn't on the list... stagnation. Most of the effort in the past year of development has gone into stability and scaling issues while many promised features have yet to show up after more than a year of being in the pipeline. I personally have had plans in indefinite limbo as a result, waiting for generalized texture layers (or equivelant) to arrive or at least be detailed as to how exactly it's going to work. It's frustrating the hell out of me, but I don't expect it to be a priority because it's not mission critical. I only wish it was a priority.
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