How many SLers are using Linux?
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punk in drublic
Join date: 13 Nov 2003
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12-01-2005 16:57
I know this comes up from time to time, but I'm curious if we can get a reasonably accurate count of the linux user base in SL.
Obviously, the purpose of this is to try and answer the age-old question of why the ever-mysterious "Linux Client" that LL had promised back around 1.0 - 1.1 hasn't been delivered.
Are there simply not enough Linux users in SL to justify it?
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Adam Zaius
Deus
Join date: 9 Jan 2004
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12-01-2005 17:34
I think LL's contractor has gone walkabout. We saw some initial screenshots, then nothing.
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Tikki Kerensky
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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12-01-2005 17:38
My former roomie would be in SL today if there was a Linux client. He'd rather not futz around with emulators, though he could.
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Jeffrey Gomez
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Join date: 11 Jun 2004
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12-01-2005 19:29
I'm a Linux convert. If Second Life ran on it, I very likely wouldn't use Windows at all* anymore.
* with exception for job-type stuff
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Subghoul Epsilon
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Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 32
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12-01-2005 19:32
Second Life is the only reason I run windows anymore. Has anyone had any recent feedback from LL regarding a linux client?
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Khashai Steinbeck
A drop in the Biomass.
Join date: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 283
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12-01-2005 22:07
my games, in general are the only things keeping me from going all-the-way with Linux. I just gotta be sure, that when I do, I use protection.
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Issarlk Chatnoir
Cross L. apologist.
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
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12-02-2005 01:25
I use Linux and used SL on it until 1.6 where it stopped working for me. I'm looking forward to the linux client, dual booting is no fun.
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Andrew Linden
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12-02-2005 08:28
From: Adam Zaius I think LL's contractor has gone walkabout. We saw some initial screenshots, then nothing. Actually, he did go missing. As far as I know the project was started on his own initiative. He wanted to work on it in his copius spare time and LL's stance was, "If you can do it, great!". He made some rapid progress, then got sidetracked and never got back to it. I prodded him twice but he didn't reply. Which is very unfortunate. I don't even have access to SL at home anymore since our Windows computer finally succumbed to a virus. I transferred all of the important data over to a Knoppix/debian machine and haven't had time to rebuild a fresh Windows installation. I would love to work on a GNU/Linux port of SL but I already have a full plate of stuff to do that I can't get done fast enough. 
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Katiahnya Muromachi
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Join date: 25 Jun 2005
Posts: 130
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12-02-2005 08:35
I run a couple of Linux boxes, however I play SL on a WinXP system. I have met a couple people who play SL on Linux using a Wine emulator, however they have told me that it runs like ass. A SL Linux client would be cool for those people who are Linux purists, however I tend to find that using OS's that excel in their niche (Windows for gaming, Linux for infrastructure, and Mac for multimedia) yields the most efficient results for me.
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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12-02-2005 10:16
If they had a Linux client I could run under Linux emulation on FreeBSD I'd be interested.
I don't run Linux, and I don't program in Pascal. I use FreeBSD and Fortran. REAL software for REAL hackers who aren't afraid of editing /etc/rc.conf. In "ed". On a teletype. With a sticky llll key.
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Enoch Lameth
Where're my pants?
Join date: 1 Nov 2005
Posts: 131
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12-02-2005 11:31
The Linux box sits next to the Windows box, and of course, they're both on the network. Which answer do I vote for? 
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Jenden Marat
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Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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12-02-2005 14:02
I run it on linux (when I can, wine likes to give me problems from time to time). A linux client would make life so much easier...
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Zippity Neutra
What'd I miss?
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Eh? What? Speak up, sonny...
12-03-2005 01:14
From: Argent Stonecutter I use FreeBSD and Fortran. REAL software for REAL hackers who aren't afraid of editing /etc/rc.conf. In "ed". On a teletype. With a sticky llll key. Oh Argent, it's so sad to see you give in to these decadent modern conveniences. I suppose you're running a filesystem that supports filenames greater than 14 characters, and those newfangled "symbolic links," eh? What a waste of all that speed available in the newer machines like the pdp-11/60 ... Seriously, it'd be nice to have a *nix client. I'd use it, when I can unpack my office. But as with the last time I saw this topic come up, I think it makes a lot more sense for LL to put their resources into the Windows and Mac clients. Seems like that's where all the hottest gfx support is anyway. And since Macs have started sprouting in my house, I'll point out that the OS X client is a *nix client... Now where was I? Oh yes, let me tell you about rendering wireframes in GL -- none of this "Open" nonsense, mind ye -- on my SGI Iris 3130. Why, I had a whole 24 bitplanes in that chassis, and even a Z buffer...
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Phantom Enigma
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Join date: 18 Nov 2005
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windows and work
12-03-2005 08:56
From: Jeffrey Gomez I'm a Linux convert. If Second Life ran on it, I very likely wouldn't use Windows at all* anymore.
* with exception for job-type stuff Hey with OpenOffice you don't even need windows for job-type stuff. There really isn't an excuse for not making linux clients for any 'windows' based game or app.
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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12-03-2005 14:25
From: Zippity Neutra Oh Argent, it's so sad to see you give in to these decadent modern conveniences. I suppose you're running a filesystem that supports filenames greater than 14 characters, and those newfangled "symbolic links," eh? What a waste of all that speed available in the newer machines like the pdp-11/60 ... Well, I have to, after they nerfed hard links... you can't hard-link to directories one these wimpy newfangled machines. And they don't even let ROOT directly edit directories any more, like they did in version 6 on the 11/23! And.. we could have filenames as long as we like. They just had to be unique in the first 14 characters! 
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Adam Zaius
Deus
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12-03-2005 15:04
From: Andrew Linden Actually, he did go missing. As far as I know the project was started on his own initiative. He wanted to work on it in his copius spare time and LL's stance was, "If you can do it, great!". He made some rapid progress, then got sidetracked and never got back to it. I prodded him twice but he didn't reply. Which is very unfortunate. I don't even have access to SL at home anymore since our Windows computer finally succumbed to a virus. I transferred all of the important data over to a Knoppix/debian machine and haven't had time to rebuild a fresh Windows installation. I would love to work on a GNU/Linux port of SL but I already have a full plate of stuff to do that I can't get done fast enough.  Ack. Are there any other lindens who could take on this project? How complete is/was Icculus's port, and do you have the lastest copy of those sources?
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Alan Kiesler
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Join date: 29 Jun 2004
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12-05-2005 13:55
From: Phantom Enigma Hey with OpenOffice you don't even need windows for job-type stuff. There really isn't an excuse for not making linux clients for any 'windows' based game or app. Actually, some things that are proprietary to M$ (like our web portal running SharePoint), keeps me on my toes in the windows side of work. Otherwise, the Sun Solaris workstation on the desk I use would be the *only* workstation, plus I'd go and setup the home desktop under dual-boot (with some XP space for stuff like Uru  ). I'd dual-boot Solaris 10 instead but the VPN client is Linux or Windows. A true Linux port would be happily tested by me under Solaris 10 (which is supposed to have libraries to run Linux apps natively). It would be neat to run SL on Solaris under the new 8-core Sparc T1 processor. 
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Argent Stonecutter
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The low Sparc of high-heeled boys...
12-05-2005 14:38
From: Alan Kiesler A true Linux port would be happily tested by me under Solaris 10 (which is supposed to have libraries to run Linux apps natively). It would be neat to run SL on Solaris under the new 8-core Sparc T1 processor.  Erm... an Intel version of SL wouldn't ever run on a Sparc. And the Sparc's always been a kind of anemic processor anyway, people don't generally buy Suns for heavy number-crunching like SL requires. <i>And the thing that disturbs you is only the sound Of the low Sparc of high-heeled boys</i>
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Icon Serpentine
punk in drublic
Join date: 13 Nov 2003
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12-05-2005 18:45
Interesting to see that linux is about 1:2 with windows.
Really says a lot.. I bet there are fewer mac users.
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